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There's lots of very exciting work going on around the fully mapped fruit fly connectome. For example, I'm a CTO of a stealth startup that aims to do for utilit
by autophagian 3y ago
There's lots of very exciting work going on around the fully mapped fruit fly connectome. For example, I'm a CTO of a stealth startup that aims to do for utilitarianism what carbon credits did for environmentalism. We are selling 'utility credits' which translates directly into us simulating trillions and trillions of fruit fly brains in a state of constant orgasmic bliss, which you can then buy to offset any actions your company has undertaken that damage global happiness or well-being. We've seen a lot of interest from some pretty large industry players.
- WitCanStain 3y agoAbsolutely brilliant.
- imjonse 3y agofly.org by any chance?
- Schiphol 3y agoMy subjective probability that this is sarcasm is .87 or so
- cubefox 3y agoA philosophical challenge to utilitarianism.
- rpastuszak 3y ago> We are selling 'utility credits' I'm sorry but this is where you lost me. We should be democratising utility credits, not selling them.
- actionfromafar 3y agoYes, if we can find a way to mine bliss utility simulation credits on our smartphones, we could offset personal moral failures.
- actionfromafar 3y agoOf course, in the beginning, it could only offset base actions like pointless violence and aggressive, rude behaviour. But in the future, as we hope to simulate more advanced brains, we could offset for instance cognitive dissonance, double standards, and perhaps one day even vanity!
- HPsquared 3y agoThis could massively save on the social security budget.
- rcme 3y agoAren't utility credits called money?
- autophagian 3y agoNo. If I have 100 dollars, I might have gotten those from betting on old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative, or I might have gotten it from teaching disadvantaged teenagers PHP - a net utility positive. If you have 100 UC, the only way those credits could have been minted is through 100 hours of 1 million simulated fruit flies having the time of their life.
- pas 3y agowhy do you think the elderly ought not enjoy some full-contact shenanigans!?
- shever73 3y ago> I might have gotten it from teaching disadvantaged teenagers PHP Aren't they disadvantaged enough??
- rbanffy 3y agoBravo!
- danparsonson 3y ago>...old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative... Given the potential for freeing up much needed beds, I think this is debatable
- op00to 3y agoIf you think about it toughening up our elderly could increase their health and cause them to not need care beds as much. After the initial beatings I mean.
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- Yajirobe 3y agoThat is very interesting. Where can I read more about your company?
- pas 3y agohttps://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/another-bay-area-house-party https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/another-bay-area-house...
- doctor_eval 3y agoThis would be comedy gold if only it wasn’t so believable.
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- short_sells_poo 3y agoSprinkle some blockchain bullshit around this and you'll be drowning in money :)
- rbanffy 3y agoBlockchain and machine learning in addition to the fly connectome so you always locate the highest peak happiness state.
- moffkalast 3y agoSounds about as legit as carbon offsets genuinely are.
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- wiz21c 3y agoIs your company called Black Mirror ? :-)
- xianshou 3y agoThis is great, but suffers from the same issue as carbon credits in that any secondary market is likely to allow multiple pledging for the same underlying activity. If someone is already simulating millions of orgasmically happy fruit flies, for instance, they can earn utility credits by promising not to deactivate those flies - but how can we verify the same promise hasn't already been extended elsewhere? I think you need some NFTs.
- messe 3y ago> I think you need some NFTs. And if you build them on a proof of work system you even increase the demand for carbon credits. It becomes a wonderfully self-sustaining and robust ecosystem unlike that pesky delicate one in the amazon getting in the way of good farmland.
- me551ah 3y agoThis is the exact problem that my startup NeuroNFT is trying to solve NeuroNFT is a platform that uses blockchain technology to generate and trade NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens) based on the whole brain connectome of the fruit fly. The core of the platform is a detailed, dynamic model of the fruit fly's brain connectome, mapped with high precision using cutting-edge neuroimaging techniques. Each unique connectome can be tokenized into an NFT and owned by an individual. These NFTs aren't just pieces of digital art. By leveraging advanced machine learning algorithms and computational models, each NFT can act as a 'brain' for a virtual fruit fly in a digital environment, offering different behavioral patterns based on the unique neuronal configuration represented in the NFT. This platform serves as a bridge between the worlds of neuroscience, blockchain, and digital art. It provides a novel way for users to learn about neuroscience, while also offering a unique, scientifically rooted form of digital collectible. Moreover, it paves the way for groundbreaking research in understanding brain dynamics and behavior, with users' interactions with their NFTs contributing valuable data to the field.
- LegitShady 3y agoI'm cutting out the middleman and just feeding fruit flies myself.
- oldgradstudent 3y agoSo sad SBF is too busy to be able to invest in your startup.
- niklasbuschmann 3y agoHonest question: What about someone doing the opposite, simulating trillions of suffering flys? Shouldn‘t we worry about that?
- goodbyesf 3y ago[flagged]
- mhb 3y agoParallel invention, missing attribution or same person? https://twitter.com/amasad/status/1675393593953878016 https://twitter.com/amasad/status/1675393593953878016 Utilitarians: what's stopping you from spinning up a 1M H100 cluster and putting these fruit flies in an infinite state of orgasmic bliss?
- localtoast 3y agoIsn't this concept lifted directly from Ned Beauman's Venomous Lumpsucker? I'm hearing bells. Church bells. :)
- hsnewman 3y agoAren't carbon offsets (credits) a result of laws being passed by countries?
- s1artibartfast 3y agoWe should have coffee. I work with many well known state and local governments that have programmed which pay people not to steal and commit acts of violence. The idea is that every person who's not actively hurting someone should earn financial rewards. People with a proven track record of hurting people get higher rewards. We've been trying to figure out a way to charge the general public for these positive externalities and I think you're on to something.
- freilanzer 3y agoWhat a coincidence, I recently founded a startup with a similar mission. It's called TormentNexus.
- brookst 3y agoAh, a Venomous Lumpsucker fan.