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How is it false equivalency, you seem to think that individuals can choose whatever they individually believe is right i.e. an individual in Russia can some how

by Guthur 3y ago

How is it false equivalency, you seem to think that individuals can choose whatever they individually believe is right i.e. an individual in Russia can some how chose not to be involved in the ongoing conflict. And so if that is true it must be just as simple for someone within Ukraine to chose a different path and not be part of the country we call Ukraine. Orc is non-human, it is dehumanizing. And I'm not sure we both agree what the Nazi ideology is. For me Nazi is someone who follows a race based ideology that aims to dehumanize or otherwise segegrate elements of humanity as being of a lower category. Fake country and fake human is a false equivalency. Humans are living conscious beings of a category that we all belong to. Countries are a further category we've invented for...reasons. I've not seen evidence that the people in the area we call Russia have claimed that the humans in the area we call Ukraine are some how non-humans. But in contrast none of us are here denying that Ukriane openly refers to Russians as a non-human category.

_kbh_ 3y ago
> How is it false equivalency, you seem to think that individuals can choose whatever they individually believe is right i.e. an individual in Russia can some how chose not to be involved in the ongoing conflict. Yes there is an always free will, regardless of the consequences. "I was just following orders" as an excuse for doing terrible things didn't fly with the Nazis and it shouldn't fly now. > Orc is non-human, it is dehumanizing. And I'm not sure we both agree what the Nazi ideology is. For me Nazi is someone who follows a race based ideology that aims to dehumanize or otherwise segegrate elements of humanity as being of a lower category. Monsters are non-human, it is dehumanising. Calling Nazi's monsters is dehumanising right?. > I've not seen evidence that the people in the area we call Russia have claimed that the humans in the area we call Ukraine are some how non-humans. But in contrast none of us are here denying that Ukriane openly refers to Russians as a non-human category. It has happened plenty, from government officials. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-soldiers-monsters-secret-experiments-biolabs-us-1725908 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-soldiers-monsters-se... > Russian officials claimed on Monday that Ukrainian soldiers have been turned into "monsters" in "secret experiments" in biological laboratories in Ukraine funded by the United States government. You didn't look very hard did you?. You also never answered the question if you think Nazi's are monsters.

by Guthur 3y ago

_kbh_ 3y ago

> How is it false equivalency, you seem to think that individuals can choose whatever they individually believe is right i.e. an individual in Russia can some how chose not to be involved in the ongoing conflict. Yes there is an always free will, regardless of the consequences. "I was just following orders" as an excuse for doing terrible things didn't fly with the Nazis and it shouldn't fly now. > Orc is non-human, it is dehumanizing. And I'm not sure we both agree what the Nazi ideology is. For me Nazi is someone who follows a race based ideology that aims to dehumanize or otherwise segegrate elements of humanity as being of a lower category. Monsters are non-human, it is dehumanising. Calling Nazi's monsters is dehumanising right?. > I've not seen evidence that the people in the area we call Russia have claimed that the humans in the area we call Ukraine are some how non-humans. But in contrast none of us are here denying that Ukriane openly refers to Russians as a non-human category. It has happened plenty, from government officials. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-soldiers-monsters-secret-experiments-biolabs-us-1725908 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-soldiers-monsters-se... > Russian officials claimed on Monday that Ukrainian soldiers have been turned into "monsters" in "secret experiments" in biological laboratories in Ukraine funded by the United States government. You didn't look very hard did you?. You also never answered the question if you think Nazi's are monsters.