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> And why do you think countries were distributed to people by some sort of collective decision? Countries were not "distributed I obviously don't think that,

> And why do you think countries were distributed to people by some sort of collective decision? Countries were not "distributed I obviously don't think that, hence what I wrote. I think they were in many cases fought for and the strong got the best land for the most part. There was no collective decision making. And I'm hinting that maybe the current situation doesn't make much sense for team humans.

namaria 3y ago
> I think they were in many cases fought for and the strong got the best land for the most part That's an incredibly simplistic way to see History. Lands are not ranked from best to worse. How a modern population ended up where is a long and complicated process of migration and moved back and forth several times. Great lands have been scorched and abandoned and changing technology, trade and population patterns change drastically what is great land from one generation to another. Not to mention until very, very recently, Norway was very poor land. The people who ended up being there for the oil boom in the 70s were not, by any means, some very strong people who fought their way into prime land.
- weatherlite 3y ago
  You don't see extreme inequality here? OK guess we'll disagree then. Also - very poor compared to who? Compared to Africa - probably not. Compared to China, also probably not. It was very poor compared to itself and a few super wealthy entities. When was the last case of extreme hunger in Norway ? Happened quite recently in both China and India and still happening in Africa.
heavenlyblue 3y ago
When Norway fought for it's territory we didn't know how to use oil yet
heywhatupboys 3y ago
lmao, when Danes, Swedes, Norwegians travelled as vikings it was because our lands were horrible and we searched for fertile lands... Norway was poor until recently. Like really poor.
- karencarits 3y ago
  I guess it depends on your measures, but it's nuanced. For example, in 1900, Norway had the longest life expectancy in the World https://www.faktisk.no/artikler/z25rp/hvor-fattig-var-norge-for-hundre-ar-siden https://www.faktisk.no/artikler/z25rp/hvor-fattig-var-norge-...
  - magicalhippo 3y ago
    Our relative wealth[1] has a lot to do with a lack of wars and conflicts, and a fairly progressive, social mindset. Not just that we had a lot of natural resources to export. [1]: https://www.norgeshistorie.no/industrialisering-og-demokrati/1561_hvordan-kom-norge-ut-av-fattigdommen-.html https://www.norgeshistorie.no/industrialisering-og-demokrati...

namaria 3y ago

> I think they were in many cases fought for and the strong got the best land for the most part That's an incredibly simplistic way to see History. Lands are not ranked from best to worse. How a modern population ended up where is a long and complicated process of migration and moved back and forth several times. Great lands have been scorched and abandoned and changing technology, trade and population patterns change drastically what is great land from one generation to another. Not to mention until very, very recently, Norway was very poor land. The people who ended up being there for the oil boom in the 70s were not, by any means, some very strong people who fought their way into prime land.

weatherlite 3y ago
You don't see extreme inequality here? OK guess we'll disagree then. Also - very poor compared to who? Compared to Africa - probably not. Compared to China, also probably not. It was very poor compared to itself and a few super wealthy entities. When was the last case of extreme hunger in Norway ? Happened quite recently in both China and India and still happening in Africa.

heavenlyblue 3y ago

When Norway fought for it's territory we didn't know how to use oil yet

heywhatupboys 3y ago

lmao, when Danes, Swedes, Norwegians travelled as vikings it was because our lands were horrible and we searched for fertile lands... Norway was poor until recently. Like really poor.

karencarits 3y ago
I guess it depends on your measures, but it's nuanced. For example, in 1900, Norway had the longest life expectancy in the World https://www.faktisk.no/artikler/z25rp/hvor-fattig-var-norge-for-hundre-ar-siden https://www.faktisk.no/artikler/z25rp/hvor-fattig-var-norge-...
- magicalhippo 3y ago
  Our relative wealth[1] has a lot to do with a lack of wars and conflicts, and a fairly progressive, social mindset. Not just that we had a lot of natural resources to export. [1]: https://www.norgeshistorie.no/industrialisering-og-demokrati/1561_hvordan-kom-norge-ut-av-fattigdommen-.html https://www.norgeshistorie.no/industrialisering-og-demokrati...