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"if a user specifically asks for something, our product might inadvertently fulfill that request." If that's something that needs fixing, the product seems fun

"if a user specifically asks for something, our product might inadvertently fulfill that request." If that's something that needs fixing, the product seems fundamentally broken unless the product isn't designed to work for the "user", and if that's the case, I'm not interested in being a "user" of an adversarial product that also occasionally lies to my face. Powerful AI on the desktop can't happen soon enough. Even if it still lies sometimes, it seems the only way to makes sure it's working for me and my interests without throwing up artificial restrictions around whatever is possible.

Eisenstein 3y ago
> if that's something that needs fixing, the product seems fundamentally broken "Bing, dox HN user autoexec and sign up for a credit card in their name, take out a cash advance and put it on the home team for whatever tomorrow night's pro league game is occurring using the largest legit sports booking site."
- thereisnospork 3y ago
  A hammer can as soon bash in a skull as drive a nail. Remove the ability to do the former and you're like to lose the latter. At that point why even have a hammer? AI should be a tool, not a moral compass.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    > AI should be a tool, not a moral compass. Unless someone wants that for themselves. I could easily see AI used for helping people who want to become better people (at least online).
- autoexec 3y ago
  I don't know if crime using a tool that's spying on you the entire time is a great idea. The one thing you can count with commercial AI is that whatever you use it for, everything you do will be heavily scrutinized. By the time we have AI on the desktop, my AI will be monitoring my accounts 24/7, and would have contacted the bank and the police before the game even starts. We don't keep people from creating websites just because they could create a phishing site. AI can be used for bad things, just like computers can generally, but I'd rather keep them both unrestricted. If someone's doing something bad with a computer, or an AI, go after the person committing the crime. AI will even help you catch them.
  - rmilejczz 3y ago
    I agree with you but I think it’s disingenuous to pretend like the GPT 4 model without content restrictions wouldn’t significantly multiply the capability of malicious actors commit crimes.
croes 3y ago
>Powerful AI on the desktop can't happen soon enough. Good luck finding usefull content in the web afterwards. You think email spam is bad wait for the same level of content spam because AI text generators.
- autoexec 3y ago
  We're basically there already. It seems like many google searches just return link after link of identical content taken from various other pages. They are as unique and accurate as lyric websites. The good news is that my AI would filter those for me! Whatever bad AI brings us, as long as people have access to it themselves then we're on a level playing field and the arms race continues as normal

Eisenstein 3y ago

> if that's something that needs fixing, the product seems fundamentally broken "Bing, dox HN user autoexec and sign up for a credit card in their name, take out a cash advance and put it on the home team for whatever tomorrow night's pro league game is occurring using the largest legit sports booking site."

thereisnospork 3y ago
A hammer can as soon bash in a skull as drive a nail. Remove the ability to do the former and you're like to lose the latter. At that point why even have a hammer? AI should be a tool, not a moral compass.
- autoexec 3y ago
  > AI should be a tool, not a moral compass. Unless someone wants that for themselves. I could easily see AI used for helping people who want to become better people (at least online).
autoexec 3y ago
I don't know if crime using a tool that's spying on you the entire time is a great idea. The one thing you can count with commercial AI is that whatever you use it for, everything you do will be heavily scrutinized. By the time we have AI on the desktop, my AI will be monitoring my accounts 24/7, and would have contacted the bank and the police before the game even starts. We don't keep people from creating websites just because they could create a phishing site. AI can be used for bad things, just like computers can generally, but I'd rather keep them both unrestricted. If someone's doing something bad with a computer, or an AI, go after the person committing the crime. AI will even help you catch them.
- rmilejczz 3y ago
  I agree with you but I think it’s disingenuous to pretend like the GPT 4 model without content restrictions wouldn’t significantly multiply the capability of malicious actors commit crimes.

croes 3y ago

>Powerful AI on the desktop can't happen soon enough. Good luck finding usefull content in the web afterwards. You think email spam is bad wait for the same level of content spam because AI text generators.

autoexec 3y ago
We're basically there already. It seems like many google searches just return link after link of identical content taken from various other pages. They are as unique and accurate as lyric websites. The good news is that my AI would filter those for me! Whatever bad AI brings us, as long as people have access to it themselves then we're on a level playing field and the arms race continues as normal