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All they need to do is copy Twitter from like ten years ago, and they already have a killer product that's an order of magnitude better than what Twitter is now

All they need to do is copy Twitter from like ten years ago, and they already have a killer product that's an order of magnitude better than what Twitter is now.

akho 3y ago
At this point, they would likely prefer a profitable product.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  Profitable? Like what? Metaverse? Meta is the kind of company to throw $25+ Billion into a vanity project and not really sweat it.
inDigiNeous 3y ago
All this talk about demise of twitter, and why ? For me at least personally, the experience is better. No more cult of personalities with "verified" badges and wondering who gets it and who does not. No more censorship of certain people and shadow banning, which is one of the main issues Elon even bought Twitter I think, was to create a censorship free platform for discussion. The feeds are better, I see less stupid likes like I did for example 1 year ago, when my feed would be full of likes from people I dont care about. Also, there is the feature of community leaving feedback on the tweet, which can show immediately that okay, this tweet is just wrong. 10 years ago was a different time socially and politically, you cannot go back to that. Also ten years ago twitter had probably much less bots and users also.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  You mean like how Elon Musk has shadowbanned pro-Ukrainian talk, such as Kyiv Independent? All pro-Ukrainian sources do not trickle up the timelines anymore. Twitter also puts Ukrainians soldiers petting-puppies and/or showing off their cats behind the age-restriction filters. -------- Before, Twitter had a committee and moderators who you could talk to about these shadowbans and other such moderation decisions. Today, all those have been fired, and strangely pro-Russians are being boosted... while pro-Ukrainians are being shadowbanned.
  - valval 3y ago
    I doubt what you're saying is even close to true. Hand out the evidence.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shadowbanned-on-twitter/ https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shad... https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who-write-about-russians-blowing-up-the-kakhovska-hpp-i53385 https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who... ----------------- Something like this came up as age-restricted: https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994 https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994
      - valval 3y ago
        A Ukrainian news site seems like great evidence indeed.
        dragontamer 3y ago
        Do you expect the Russians to talk about Ukrainian accounts getting shadowbanned on Twitter? Of course this news would come from Ukrainian sources. --------------- https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_deboosted_nafo_accounts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_d... Its pretty obvious too. Traffic to Ukrainian-meme accounts dropped significantly. Anyone following Ukrainian accounts saw traffic go from thousands+ into just single-digits when the deboosting / shadowbans started. I am part of that crowd who visited Ukrainian memes and saw them disappear from Twitter. So consider _ME_ to be a source on this as well.
        philwelch 3y ago
        Maybe Twitter just stopped artificially boosting pro-Ukraine content.
- vGPU 3y ago
  Agreed. I only started using twitter after the changes musk made. I found it absolutely intolerable previously. The search feature needs a complete overhaul though, and despite musk’s claims of cracking down on spam I still see far too many crypto spammers every day.
  - inDigiNeous 3y ago
    Yeah, must be a damn big task trying to fix a codebase that is already over 10 years old.

All they need to do is copy Twitter from like ten years ago, and they already have a killer product that's an order of magnitude better than what Twitter is now.

akho 3y ago

At this point, they would likely prefer a profitable product.

dragontamer 3y ago
Profitable? Like what? Metaverse? Meta is the kind of company to throw $25+ Billion into a vanity project and not really sweat it.

inDigiNeous 3y ago

All this talk about demise of twitter, and why ? For me at least personally, the experience is better. No more cult of personalities with "verified" badges and wondering who gets it and who does not. No more censorship of certain people and shadow banning, which is one of the main issues Elon even bought Twitter I think, was to create a censorship free platform for discussion. The feeds are better, I see less stupid likes like I did for example 1 year ago, when my feed would be full of likes from people I dont care about. Also, there is the feature of community leaving feedback on the tweet, which can show immediately that okay, this tweet is just wrong. 10 years ago was a different time socially and politically, you cannot go back to that. Also ten years ago twitter had probably much less bots and users also.

dragontamer 3y ago
You mean like how Elon Musk has shadowbanned pro-Ukrainian talk, such as Kyiv Independent? All pro-Ukrainian sources do not trickle up the timelines anymore. Twitter also puts Ukrainians soldiers petting-puppies and/or showing off their cats behind the age-restriction filters. -------- Before, Twitter had a committee and moderators who you could talk to about these shadowbans and other such moderation decisions. Today, all those have been fired, and strangely pro-Russians are being boosted... while pro-Ukrainians are being shadowbanned.
- valval 3y ago
  I doubt what you're saying is even close to true. Hand out the evidence.
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shadowbanned-on-twitter/ https://ain.capital/2023/06/07/ukrainians-are-massively-shad... https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who-write-about-russians-blowing-up-the-kakhovska-hpp-i53385 https://imi.org.ua/en/news/twitter-shadowbans-ukrainians-who... ----------------- Something like this came up as age-restricted: https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994 https://twitter.com/ukraine6679/status/1573928649304276994
    - valval 3y ago
      A Ukrainian news site seems like great evidence indeed.
      - dragontamer 3y ago
        Do you expect the Russians to talk about Ukrainian accounts getting shadowbanned on Twitter? Of course this news would come from Ukrainian sources. --------------- https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_deboosted_nafo_accounts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NAFO/comments/145zfi7/twitter_has_d... Its pretty obvious too. Traffic to Ukrainian-meme accounts dropped significantly. Anyone following Ukrainian accounts saw traffic go from thousands+ into just single-digits when the deboosting / shadowbans started. I am part of that crowd who visited Ukrainian memes and saw them disappear from Twitter. So consider _ME_ to be a source on this as well.
        philwelch 3y ago
        Maybe Twitter just stopped artificially boosting pro-Ukraine content.
vGPU 3y ago
Agreed. I only started using twitter after the changes musk made. I found it absolutely intolerable previously. The search feature needs a complete overhaul though, and despite musk’s claims of cracking down on spam I still see far too many crypto spammers every day.
- inDigiNeous 3y ago
  Yeah, must be a damn big task trying to fix a codebase that is already over 10 years old.