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You’re just severely underestimating kids. If it’s enforced at the client level, kids will download a more permissive client. It’s so easy to bypass. Kids are h

by rcme 3y ago

You’re just severely underestimating kids. If it’s enforced at the client level, kids will download a more permissive client. It’s so easy to bypass. Kids are highly motivated, highly intelligent, and have a ton of time.

LinuxBender 3y ago
You’re just severely underestimating kids. I am not underestimating anyone. If a kid is curious enough and smart enough they can bypass anything just as their older teen peers. I would suggest if a kid is smart enough to know what they want to watch then they can probably handle the content or just go to one of the many sites not using the centralized databases as their older teen peers would. That of course should be a discussion between them and their parents. Maybe Usenet will make a come-back by the demand of clever children. If a kid is not ready for said content and they still bypass it then it should be on their parent to educate them and/or discipline them as with anything else between a parent and child. If it is leading to problems then social services will sort it out as they would with any other parental issue. People must not accept going down this dystopian route of building a centralized ID and even more censorious technology that could easily be extended to any content, not just adult. [Edit] I should also point out that most tablet and phone OS's support having child accounts. Child accounts can not install any applications.
- rcme 3y ago
  Ah, I see. So you're essentially arguing that content shouldn't be restricted to children because they're either ready to view the content on should be educated by their parents on why they shouldn't view the content. That's different than your initial argument that parental controls provide adequate content restrictions.
  - LinuxBender 3y ago
    My primary argument is that right now there is literally no working solution. I offered a solution that will cover most use cases and protect most children and that is trivial to implement by both websites and browser developers and keeps the decisions on the parents. It was implemented without corresponding legislation in the past and I am certain the knowledge has not been lost. Once implemented it can be improved upon with time using feedback from the parents.

by rcme 3y ago

LinuxBender 3y ago

You’re just severely underestimating kids. I am not underestimating anyone. If a kid is curious enough and smart enough they can bypass anything just as their older teen peers. I would suggest if a kid is smart enough to know what they want to watch then they can probably handle the content or just go to one of the many sites not using the centralized databases as their older teen peers would. That of course should be a discussion between them and their parents. Maybe Usenet will make a come-back by the demand of clever children. If a kid is not ready for said content and they still bypass it then it should be on their parent to educate them and/or discipline them as with anything else between a parent and child. If it is leading to problems then social services will sort it out as they would with any other parental issue. People must not accept going down this dystopian route of building a centralized ID and even more censorious technology that could easily be extended to any content, not just adult. [Edit] I should also point out that most tablet and phone OS's support having child accounts. Child accounts can not install any applications.

rcme 3y ago
Ah, I see. So you're essentially arguing that content shouldn't be restricted to children because they're either ready to view the content on should be educated by their parents on why they shouldn't view the content. That's different than your initial argument that parental controls provide adequate content restrictions.
- LinuxBender 3y ago
  My primary argument is that right now there is literally no working solution. I offered a solution that will cover most use cases and protect most children and that is trivial to implement by both websites and browser developers and keeps the decisions on the parents. It was implemented without corresponding legislation in the past and I am certain the knowledge has not been lost. Once implemented it can be improved upon with time using feedback from the parents.