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> are bootstrapping new social networks by mass-scraping Twitter data I am 99% sure that this is not a real thing and that you're using all of these words inco

> are bootstrapping new social networks by mass-scraping Twitter data I am 99% sure that this is not a real thing and that you're using all of these words incorrectly. When was Substack illegally scraping Twitter data? What Twitter data is being used to bootstrap Threads?

lopkeny12ko 3y ago
> When was Substack illegally scraping Twitter data? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1644638493883211779 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1644638493883211779 > What Twitter data is being used to bootstrap Threads? I have no proof of this. It's just speculation. I also don't have an iDevice so I can't install the app and look for myself. But the timing of Twitter's rate limiting this week, combined with Elon's clarification that Twitter data is being mass-scraped, combined with the launch of Threads this week...can't be a coincidence, can it?
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  actually it can, because threads has probably been in development for months? I doubt Zuck put it together since Friday. Most likely he knew Elon musk is an idiot who doesn't know the first thing about social media companies and has created a power vacuum for a Twitter like app, and now there's one for a Reddit like app.. If someone could marry the two, in a non profit Wikipedia sort of way, with decent Democratic way to moderate and vote on new features etc, we could kill two birds with one stone and replace both Twitter and Reddit.
- predictabl3 3y ago
  Friend, I am a fan of, and highly recommend use your critical thinking skills to evaluate statements that others make before parroting them. I don't repeat things that make no sense on their face, like "Substack is scraping Twitter" or "Threads is bootstrapping off Twitter data". Like, what would that even mean? Do you really think Meta is going to launch a Twitter competitor and just wholesale impersonate accounts and their content? If not, what even are you implying? (from the "proof" link where Elon was accusing Substack of scraping:) >2. Substack was trying to download a massive portion of the Twitter database to bootstrap their Twitter clone, so their IP address is obviously untrusted. lol, reading that still makes me chuckle. I can't believe people eat his crap up even when the circumstances make it clear that he's backpeddaling and desperately trying to save face.
- danShumway 3y ago
  I can't read this tweet to find out what Elon is claiming because... gestures wildly around at the state of Twitter. But linking to an Elon Musk tweet does not on its face change anything about my prior that this is not a real thing and that you're using all of these words incorrectly. Elon thinks everything that is personally inconvenient to him is illegal. He's threatened legal action in the past over advertisers just not buying ads from him. He just says stuff. But you have to apply some critical thinking here -- what would it even look like to "bootstrap" Threads with Twitter data? These words mean things, if Threads is being bootstrapped with stolen data, there should be Twitter data on Threads -- accounts should be mirrored, content should be mirrored, there should be something. Is there? > But the timing of Twitter's rate limiting this week, combined with Elon's clarification that Twitter data is being mass-scraped, combined with the launch of Threads this week...can't be a coincidence, can it? The timing of Threads launching this week is probably a direct response to gestures wildly around at the state of Twitter right now. I find it incredibly unlikely that Instagram launching Threads crippled Twitter's infrastructure. Particularly given that Elon Musk himself claimed (also likely incorrectly) that it was AI companies crippling the site, not rival social networks.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > can't be a coincidence, can it? Boy do I have a cosmic bridge to sell you!

lopkeny12ko 3y ago

> When was Substack illegally scraping Twitter data? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1644638493883211779 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1644638493883211779 > What Twitter data is being used to bootstrap Threads? I have no proof of this. It's just speculation. I also don't have an iDevice so I can't install the app and look for myself. But the timing of Twitter's rate limiting this week, combined with Elon's clarification that Twitter data is being mass-scraped, combined with the launch of Threads this week...can't be a coincidence, can it?

gremlinsinc 3y ago
actually it can, because threads has probably been in development for months? I doubt Zuck put it together since Friday. Most likely he knew Elon musk is an idiot who doesn't know the first thing about social media companies and has created a power vacuum for a Twitter like app, and now there's one for a Reddit like app.. If someone could marry the two, in a non profit Wikipedia sort of way, with decent Democratic way to moderate and vote on new features etc, we could kill two birds with one stone and replace both Twitter and Reddit.
predictabl3 3y ago
Friend, I am a fan of, and highly recommend use your critical thinking skills to evaluate statements that others make before parroting them. I don't repeat things that make no sense on their face, like "Substack is scraping Twitter" or "Threads is bootstrapping off Twitter data". Like, what would that even mean? Do you really think Meta is going to launch a Twitter competitor and just wholesale impersonate accounts and their content? If not, what even are you implying? (from the "proof" link where Elon was accusing Substack of scraping:) >2. Substack was trying to download a massive portion of the Twitter database to bootstrap their Twitter clone, so their IP address is obviously untrusted. lol, reading that still makes me chuckle. I can't believe people eat his crap up even when the circumstances make it clear that he's backpeddaling and desperately trying to save face.
danShumway 3y ago
I can't read this tweet to find out what Elon is claiming because... gestures wildly around at the state of Twitter. But linking to an Elon Musk tweet does not on its face change anything about my prior that this is not a real thing and that you're using all of these words incorrectly. Elon thinks everything that is personally inconvenient to him is illegal. He's threatened legal action in the past over advertisers just not buying ads from him. He just says stuff. But you have to apply some critical thinking here -- what would it even look like to "bootstrap" Threads with Twitter data? These words mean things, if Threads is being bootstrapped with stolen data, there should be Twitter data on Threads -- accounts should be mirrored, content should be mirrored, there should be something. Is there? > But the timing of Twitter's rate limiting this week, combined with Elon's clarification that Twitter data is being mass-scraped, combined with the launch of Threads this week...can't be a coincidence, can it? The timing of Threads launching this week is probably a direct response to gestures wildly around at the state of Twitter right now. I find it incredibly unlikely that Instagram launching Threads crippled Twitter's infrastructure. Particularly given that Elon Musk himself claimed (also likely incorrectly) that it was AI companies crippling the site, not rival social networks.
smoldesu 3y ago
> can't be a coincidence, can it? Boy do I have a cosmic bridge to sell you!