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I believe the target market here are amateurs who don't have the skill or reflexes to focus properly ahead of time. I certainly fall into that category.

rogerbinns 15y ago
My point and shoot camera has an auto everything mode. It figures out what scene to use (eg night versus landscape versus portait), where to do metering and what to focus on. I've never had a problem nor needed any skill. You can press the shutter half way down and it will follow focus whatever is appropriate showing you what it is doing. The replacement model even has a touchscreen so if you want you can simply touch whatever it is you wanted focussed. Again absolutely no skill needed. Reflexes is a little more interesting. Digital pictures are essentially free so there isn't any harm in taking lots of them. Amongst the specs listed on comparison sites are times to first shot and burst modes, the combination of which means you are likely to get something good despite your reflexes. I can't find any mention of the lytro having a burst mode. It doesn't look like the lytro has any benefit compared to a point and shoot for conventional picture taking including focus and reflexes. But as we all know from The Innovator's Dilemma that isn't what matters - look to where things are different. One thing that is immediately apparent is it can build a 3D map of the image as it knows the distance to every pixel.
- juiceandjuice 15y ago
  Your point and shoot doesn't do depth of field very well, let alone let you adjust it after the fact. It's also likely that focusing is much much slower for you than the lytro. In any case, the lytro probably isn't for you right now.
  - rogerbinns 15y ago
    Focussing on the point and shoot is 0.2 to 0.4 seconds. (Latest model is 0.1 seconds). Note the comment I was replying to claiming the lytro market is amateurs with slow reflexes. I don't think the lytro is even close to a good fit for that market even for amateurs with slow focussing and reflexes. An auto everything point and shoot is far superior n every aspect. Note how the review does mention you have to contrive shots to make the lytro functionality worthwhile.

rogerbinns 15y ago

My point and shoot camera has an auto everything mode. It figures out what scene to use (eg night versus landscape versus portait), where to do metering and what to focus on. I've never had a problem nor needed any skill. You can press the shutter half way down and it will follow focus whatever is appropriate showing you what it is doing. The replacement model even has a touchscreen so if you want you can simply touch whatever it is you wanted focussed. Again absolutely no skill needed. Reflexes is a little more interesting. Digital pictures are essentially free so there isn't any harm in taking lots of them. Amongst the specs listed on comparison sites are times to first shot and burst modes, the combination of which means you are likely to get something good despite your reflexes. I can't find any mention of the lytro having a burst mode. It doesn't look like the lytro has any benefit compared to a point and shoot for conventional picture taking including focus and reflexes. But as we all know from The Innovator's Dilemma that isn't what matters - look to where things are different. One thing that is immediately apparent is it can build a 3D map of the image as it knows the distance to every pixel.

juiceandjuice 15y ago
Your point and shoot doesn't do depth of field very well, let alone let you adjust it after the fact. It's also likely that focusing is much much slower for you than the lytro. In any case, the lytro probably isn't for you right now.
- rogerbinns 15y ago
  Focussing on the point and shoot is 0.2 to 0.4 seconds. (Latest model is 0.1 seconds). Note the comment I was replying to claiming the lytro market is amateurs with slow reflexes. I don't think the lytro is even close to a good fit for that market even for amateurs with slow focussing and reflexes. An auto everything point and shoot is far superior n every aspect. Note how the review does mention you have to contrive shots to make the lytro functionality worthwhile.