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I don't know, at this point I would still count Apple as only talking about it, too? Thing isn't released, after all. And you'd probably be surprised to know

by taeric 3y ago

I don't know, at this point I would still count Apple as only talking about it, too? Thing isn't released, after all. And you'd probably be surprised to know just how capable other offerings are, too. I'm a broken record, but the PS5 VR is quite impressive. Yes, you have to have a cable to hook up to the PS5, but not having a battery is an odd benefit. Not to mention the general cost difference. And my understanding is that it isn't that far ahead of the Meta offerings.

RC_ITR 3y ago
People (admittedly access-dependent friendly people [0]) have worn it and say it roughly lines up with demoes. There is no such analogue for Meta, Nreal, etc. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvXuyITwBI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvXuyITwBI
- taeric 3y ago
  I'm interested, but I'm not seeing anything in that video that really sounds as magically new as it is being reported. Eye tracking, in particular, is already doable with the existing options. For what it is, it works well. Still isn't nearly as good as using a controller. This was also the first time I read about your FaceTime usage being an odd 3d rendered version of you.
  - RC_ITR 3y ago
    Full color pass through and good hand tracking are not available on any headset even near the mainstream.
    - taeric 3y ago
      The pass through on the PS5 is nice, I'm assuming the cameras are not color, though? That or there is some other reason to not have color pass through? Curious on if anyone has given that a discussion. The tracking of my hands, though, is one that just feels misguided. The controllers provide haptic feedback that is needed for many games. To the point that I would view hand gestures as completely irrelevant? Is the eye tracking much better than the PS5? Again a thing that feels neat and is nice to see. But then I quickly turned off all controls based on it, as I would rather the indirect options with my hands. In almost all cases.

by taeric 3y ago

RC_ITR 3y ago

People (admittedly access-dependent friendly people [0]) have worn it and say it roughly lines up with demoes. There is no such analogue for Meta, Nreal, etc. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvXuyITwBI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvXuyITwBI

taeric 3y ago
I'm interested, but I'm not seeing anything in that video that really sounds as magically new as it is being reported. Eye tracking, in particular, is already doable with the existing options. For what it is, it works well. Still isn't nearly as good as using a controller. This was also the first time I read about your FaceTime usage being an odd 3d rendered version of you.
- RC_ITR 3y ago
  Full color pass through and good hand tracking are not available on any headset even near the mainstream.
  - taeric 3y ago
    The pass through on the PS5 is nice, I'm assuming the cameras are not color, though? That or there is some other reason to not have color pass through? Curious on if anyone has given that a discussion. The tracking of my hands, though, is one that just feels misguided. The controllers provide haptic feedback that is needed for many games. To the point that I would view hand gestures as completely irrelevant? Is the eye tracking much better than the PS5? Again a thing that feels neat and is nice to see. But then I quickly turned off all controls based on it, as I would rather the indirect options with my hands. In almost all cases.