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Man you really hate this thing! Apple has the luxury of being patient, and the benefit of a developer ecosystem and bottomless funds. This release may or may n

Man you really hate this thing! Apple has the luxury of being patient, and the benefit of a developer ecosystem and bottomless funds. This release may or may not be huge (I don’t think it will), but the one after, or the one after that, probably will be. I agree Apple doesn’t know the use cases or customers that will be big for gen 3 in a few years. So what? They didn’t know that for the Watch or iPhone either. The markets evolves, as markets do, and the developers experimented, and later-generation hardware evolved to support how people used earlier generations. I can understand skepticism, but I really don’t understand adamance at this point.

duped 3y ago
> the benefit of a developer ecosystem Apple hates 3rd party developers, the ecosystem exists because there's money to be made off Apple users. If there's no users of an Apple device there will be no developers - and frankly, there's no incentive to even hack around on their devices.
- anthonygd 3y ago
  I would have said they loved 3rd party developers. Apple likes to build platforms and let 3rd party developers figure out the application layer. After a third party finds a big enough market Apple will crush them and take it. It's essentially just outsourced R&D where Apple doesn't pay for the bad ideas.
- ffgjgf1 3y ago
  They love 3rd party developers who play by Apple’s rules and just ignore everyone else because they can.
castlecrasher2 3y ago
I don't think it's hate, it's simply skepticism. I adopted VR early on with the Vive and have since stopped using it completely, and I'm similarly skeptical that even Apple can pull a VR device off and make it more than a novelty. Still, we'll see if they manage it.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
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  - brookst 3y ago
    Please lay off the ad hominems. And read the other posts that led me to characterize their view as hate.
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      Please take your own advice. I've reviewed his four comments in this discussion and none of them contain emotional language strong enough to characterize as indicative of hate.
LegitShady 3y ago
You've totally imagined my emotion and somehow taken 4 posts in discussion as "Adamance" as if having an opinion of this device and talking about it on HN is outrageous. You're outrageous. It seems to me you're the one outraged that someone would do anything less than praise it breathlessly.

duped 3y ago

> the benefit of a developer ecosystem Apple hates 3rd party developers, the ecosystem exists because there's money to be made off Apple users. If there's no users of an Apple device there will be no developers - and frankly, there's no incentive to even hack around on their devices.

anthonygd 3y ago
I would have said they loved 3rd party developers. Apple likes to build platforms and let 3rd party developers figure out the application layer. After a third party finds a big enough market Apple will crush them and take it. It's essentially just outsourced R&D where Apple doesn't pay for the bad ideas.
ffgjgf1 3y ago
They love 3rd party developers who play by Apple’s rules and just ignore everyone else because they can.

castlecrasher2 3y ago

I don't think it's hate, it's simply skepticism. I adopted VR early on with the Vive and have since stopped using it completely, and I'm similarly skeptical that even Apple can pull a VR device off and make it more than a novelty. Still, we'll see if they manage it.

mcpackieh 3y ago
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- brookst 3y ago
  Please lay off the ad hominems. And read the other posts that led me to characterize their view as hate.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    Please take your own advice. I've reviewed his four comments in this discussion and none of them contain emotional language strong enough to characterize as indicative of hate.

LegitShady 3y ago

You've totally imagined my emotion and somehow taken 4 posts in discussion as "Adamance" as if having an opinion of this device and talking about it on HN is outrageous. You're outrageous. It seems to me you're the one outraged that someone would do anything less than praise it breathlessly.