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I can think of so many use cases if it were good. If it were good, you could replace all Displays with it. Games, Movies, Remote Meetings etc. Oh and Porn. So m

by dtx1 3y ago

I can think of so many use cases if it were good. If it were good, you could replace all Displays with it. Games, Movies, Remote Meetings etc. Oh and Porn. So much porn. The problem is the pricetag. It's 10x too expensive for mass adoption and 5x too expensive for developers to bother working for it.

LegitShady 3y ago
Games - will be available on cheaper a oculus or valve headset you can give to your kids. Movies - same thing, also not worth the headset price. Remote Meetings - why do I want to wear a headset that stops a video of me being recorded? The presentation they had exactly showed that people who didn't wear the headset had video of them and people wearing the headset just had an avatar card. It was the opposite of helpful. This headset makes remote meetings worse. Porn - its an apple device - any porn will just be web based because otherwise apple won't allow it. None of these use cases are $3500 compelling. There's no target market, and no compelling use case. It's a brand new helicopter skidoo hybrid and as impressive as it sounds its not clear why it exists yet.
- dtx1 3y ago
  So you agree with me, there are many usecases for an advance ar/vr device its just > The problem is the pricetag. It's 10x too expensive for mass adoption and 5x too expensive for developers to bother working for it.
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    No, I don't agree with you. Everything you said was either a bad usecase already answered by existing VR tech or made actively worse by the headset.
- cookingrobot 3y ago
  Apple sells a $6999 monitor. The Vision seems like a very niche, very expensive portable monitor.
duped 3y ago
> If it were good, you could replace all Displays with it Except when you want to show the display to multiple people at the same time.
wccrawford 3y ago
I think 5x is closer for mass adoption. Oculus is selling their new ones starting at $500, and Apple could easily match that tech and more. They're probably have to give up gimmicks like the front eye screen, though, and they'd have to target gamers, which is a group they completely left out of the presentation. Apple's name behind it, and advertising it as a work device as well as a gaming device, would let them steal a lot of the market. And I say that as someone who doesn't currently own any Apple products.
ohyes 3y ago
Not useful for movies. Netflix and chill is not about the media it’s about the people. Many console games as well. Most individual gaming is done on smartphones at this point. Same with porn. Remote meetings you want to see the person’s eye clearly (it helps identify body language). If it were a smartphone killer maybe you could eat that market, but smartphones are commodity products at this point. You can’t compete in that space at 3.5k usd. Even if it was good, it still will be a niche product for enthusiasts. It needs a low price and a mass market killer app.
- cassianoleal 3y ago
  > Most individual gaming is done on smartphones Perhaps, but only because most gaming in general is done on smartphones. I reckon about 80-90% of the games I own on PlayStation are either single-player or online multiplayer, which is the same as single-player in what relates to the matter at hand. PC gaming is even less social.

by dtx1 3y ago

LegitShady 3y ago

Games - will be available on cheaper a oculus or valve headset you can give to your kids. Movies - same thing, also not worth the headset price. Remote Meetings - why do I want to wear a headset that stops a video of me being recorded? The presentation they had exactly showed that people who didn't wear the headset had video of them and people wearing the headset just had an avatar card. It was the opposite of helpful. This headset makes remote meetings worse. Porn - its an apple device - any porn will just be web based because otherwise apple won't allow it. None of these use cases are $3500 compelling. There's no target market, and no compelling use case. It's a brand new helicopter skidoo hybrid and as impressive as it sounds its not clear why it exists yet.

dtx1 3y ago
So you agree with me, there are many usecases for an advance ar/vr device its just > The problem is the pricetag. It's 10x too expensive for mass adoption and 5x too expensive for developers to bother working for it.
- LegitShady 3y ago
  No, I don't agree with you. Everything you said was either a bad usecase already answered by existing VR tech or made actively worse by the headset.
cookingrobot 3y ago
Apple sells a $6999 monitor. The Vision seems like a very niche, very expensive portable monitor.

duped 3y ago

> If it were good, you could replace all Displays with it Except when you want to show the display to multiple people at the same time.

wccrawford 3y ago

I think 5x is closer for mass adoption. Oculus is selling their new ones starting at $500, and Apple could easily match that tech and more. They're probably have to give up gimmicks like the front eye screen, though, and they'd have to target gamers, which is a group they completely left out of the presentation. Apple's name behind it, and advertising it as a work device as well as a gaming device, would let them steal a lot of the market. And I say that as someone who doesn't currently own any Apple products.

ohyes 3y ago

Not useful for movies. Netflix and chill is not about the media it’s about the people. Many console games as well. Most individual gaming is done on smartphones at this point. Same with porn. Remote meetings you want to see the person’s eye clearly (it helps identify body language). If it were a smartphone killer maybe you could eat that market, but smartphones are commodity products at this point. You can’t compete in that space at 3.5k usd. Even if it was good, it still will be a niche product for enthusiasts. It needs a low price and a mass market killer app.

cassianoleal 3y ago
> Most individual gaming is done on smartphones Perhaps, but only because most gaming in general is done on smartphones. I reckon about 80-90% of the games I own on PlayStation are either single-player or online multiplayer, which is the same as single-player in what relates to the matter at hand. PC gaming is even less social.