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But you NEED the stuff we call "pretentious bullshit" to be a useful "Overton Window" endpoint. This is precisely why I'm so pro e.g. Richard Stallman/GPL et a

by jrm4 3y ago

But you NEED the stuff we call "pretentious bullshit" to be a useful "Overton Window" endpoint. This is precisely why I'm so pro e.g. Richard Stallman/GPL et al. Not because I actually do all that shit, but because I recognize how useful an absolute weirdo at that endpoint is.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago
Without those at each far end, the centre would be shifted closer to the other. An incomplete theory of mine is around problems of using behavioural patterns to identify potential criminals. Not all deviant behaviour is criminal, but identifying deviance and somehow cutting it off or minimising it, just means that the next inner level of the bell curve of that deviancy becomes the next target. Eg. Everyone who's killed an animal larger than a mouse put on a watch list for sociopathy. Ok, so once that's done, we need yet another level to score some cheap political points. Ok, how about kids who have amputated their siblings dolls, yeah, they're fucking nutters... It's an incomplete theory because it fails the slippery slope logical fallacy, potentially fatally. But behaviour patterns are already used to predict where crime will occur based on where it has previously occurred. This feels like an ever tightening loop that acts to increasingly justify itself whilst trapped in an echo chamber of our very own unintentional design.
- jrm4 3y ago
  I have no idea what you are even trying to say here because the underlying idea is so far from mine. Also -- uh, black enslaver? hope I'm reading that wrong
  - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
    You're only the second person who's read it as that. Black and Silver. I considered deleting the comment altogether as it did ramble.
    - jrm4 3y ago
      Haha, fair. Either way -- I def meant "Overton Window" not in the precise political sense, but as a metaphor you could use in software. As in, "Proprietary Software, no sharing ever like Microsoft used to be (and kinda still is)" on one end, and "Stallman and the GPLv3" at the other.
santoshalper 3y ago
I'd need to think about that more, but I upvoted your idea because it is interesting and potentially useful.

by jrm4 3y ago

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

Without those at each far end, the centre would be shifted closer to the other. An incomplete theory of mine is around problems of using behavioural patterns to identify potential criminals. Not all deviant behaviour is criminal, but identifying deviance and somehow cutting it off or minimising it, just means that the next inner level of the bell curve of that deviancy becomes the next target. Eg. Everyone who's killed an animal larger than a mouse put on a watch list for sociopathy. Ok, so once that's done, we need yet another level to score some cheap political points. Ok, how about kids who have amputated their siblings dolls, yeah, they're fucking nutters... It's an incomplete theory because it fails the slippery slope logical fallacy, potentially fatally. But behaviour patterns are already used to predict where crime will occur based on where it has previously occurred. This feels like an ever tightening loop that acts to increasingly justify itself whilst trapped in an echo chamber of our very own unintentional design.

jrm4 3y ago
I have no idea what you are even trying to say here because the underlying idea is so far from mine. Also -- uh, black enslaver? hope I'm reading that wrong
- BLKNSLVR 3y ago
  You're only the second person who's read it as that. Black and Silver. I considered deleting the comment altogether as it did ramble.
  - jrm4 3y ago
    Haha, fair. Either way -- I def meant "Overton Window" not in the precise political sense, but as a metaphor you could use in software. As in, "Proprietary Software, no sharing ever like Microsoft used to be (and kinda still is)" on one end, and "Stallman and the GPLv3" at the other.

santoshalper 3y ago

I'd need to think about that more, but I upvoted your idea because it is interesting and potentially useful.