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I get what you’re saying when you talk about being a fraction of the cost of a super car but I just want to point out that the plaid is a 130k+ € car. I can bu
by manuelmoreale 3y ago
I get what you’re saying when you talk about being a fraction of the cost of a super car but I just want to point out that the plaid is a 130k+ € car.
I can buy houses for that money here where I live in Italy. So it’s still an insanely expensive car.
- angrais 3y agoNot only cost, but why is accelerating quickly or reaching 200mph important? GP also mentioned 5 seats as important, and to me, those are counter needs. Even on the autostrada I would say it's typical t go 130km/h (80 mph) so I'm not sure of the context where 200mph is required.
- hef19898 3y agoGerman Autobahn, for those handful of sections without at least temprary speed limits. And on tracks, but let's be honest, vehicles like the Plaid, and similarly heavy vehicles, suck at tracks. Going fast in an almost straight line is easy.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoThe autobahn where I have driven is quite straight. Track performance depends a lot on the tires, and weight can help with right turns due to friction enhancement. Also, tracks through mountains are where EVs shine.
- rasz 3y agoYes, track times similar to Zonda F or Enzo suck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nords...
- hef19898 3y agoI said heavy cars suck on a track. Why? Because they have a harder time cornering, consuke more energy, increase tire wear and brake performance degrades as well. That is a question of weight, and weight alone. Also, and every racing series shows that, one fast lap doesn't guarantee good results in a race.
- manuelmoreale 3y agoFor me it would be completely pointless because I enjoy chilling while driving at 80kmh on country roads and not being hyper focused on what’s happening around me because I’m doing 200 on the autobahn. But I get the thrill of launching a car at insane speed. I just don’t personally see the point and would never spend those money for a car. I’d much rather buy a few hectares of forest with those money.
- osrec 3y agoA few hectares of forest for what though? Genuinely interested :)
- manuelmoreale 3y agoTo decompress, enjoy nature, leave the dog free to run around and chill on a hammock with a good book.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoIf you're not going 200 mph, how can you enjoy a book!!!?
- manuelmoreale 3y agoI’m waiting for full self driving to arrive and enjoy a book while doing 200mph!
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- Seanambers 3y agoBecause max speed is only useful on roads like the autobahn. Acceleration is something that will available from 0. It sure brightens up your day. To get supercar performance in a normal car is pretty nice and unheard of until Tesla came along. Yes it is still expensive, but less so than other cars with worse performance. You had to get the 911 or similar with all the addons for like 300k to get worse performance and not even close to the same comfort levels.
- rad_gruchalski 3y ago> but why is accelerating quickly or reaching 200mph important? We can talk about top speed but the acceleration is good for safety. Better to overtake a truck in 3 rather than 10 seconds.
- spiderice 3y agoI feel like it's hard to get how important fast acceleration is until you have it. Kind of like people who insist that their 60Hz screen "looks just as good", or how their 10 year old laptop is "still super fast and why would I upgrade it?". Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not necessarily talking about Plaid levels of acceleration. But just going from a Suburu Crosstrek (One of my cars) to a Tesla in "chill" mode (which I usually keep my Tesla in for tire longevity and not making my wife car sick) feels so much safer.
- rad_gruchalski 3y agoWhen in doubt, flat out.
- seattle_spring 3y agoLOL. Yeah Plaid having 1000 HP is a "safety feature."
- rad_gruchalski 3y agoThat’s not what I said.
- thatfrenchguy 3y agoAcceleration makes you a much worse driver, because you don't anticipate anything anymore. I've noticed this after buying an EV, and the Tesla drivers on 280 are even worse than me :-).
- catchnear4321 3y agoacceleration makes you a much worse driver - in the perception of others. acceleration makes you a badass race car driver. those slowpokes are just in the way, but that doesn’t have to slow you down. vroom vroom.
- King-Aaron 3y ago> Not only cost, but why is accelerating quickly or reaching 200mph important? For all of human history, we have chased speed. Finding the fastest at running, finding the quickest horse, designing the fastest trains, buying the fastest cars. We do it because it's a lot of fun.
- agloe_dreams 3y agoBingo, additionally the Model S is as fast/faster in a straight line…but a Supercar will pass it right by in turn 1. The car is a technological marvel…but not magic.
- foobazgt 3y agoTo say that the plaid is only fast in a straight line is a bit of an exaggeration. It's top 50 (production cars) on Nurburgring, for example -https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nor...
- emmelaich 3y agoYeah seems to do VERY well at Nurburgring. [edit: better vid coz the other is all talk] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1r4ZotaY6U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1r4ZotaY6U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NP7HWwxPbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NP7HWwxPbU "Tesla Model S Shatters Nurburgring Record, Beats Porsche Taycan Turbo S"
- rad_gruchalski 3y agoTaycan: 2022, Plaid: 2023. Took them some time (and a real round steering wheel) to get there after some squabbling between those two.
- rad_gruchalski 3y agoI recommend this video explaining what is it like really to lap one: https://youtu.be/1MF7hbyko2A https://youtu.be/1MF7hbyko2A.
- martin8412 3y agoTL;DW: it handles like a boat and the brakes can't keep up.
- foobazgt 3y ago