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I think regardless Tesla is positioned to have a lot of value. Granted I don’t know a whole lot about it so let me know if I’m wrong but it seems like even if t

I think regardless Tesla is positioned to have a lot of value. Granted I don’t know a whole lot about it so let me know if I’m wrong but it seems like even if their cars fizzle out eventually they are still building the majority of electric car infrastructure. If more and more companies cut deals with Tesla to use their stations they may end up being some majority of the countries “gas stations”. If I were investing in them it’d be as an energy company instead of a car company.

sixQuarks 3y ago
It’s funny that people have been coming out of the woodwork finally, realizing Teslas worth the valuation because of the charging station partnerships they’ve done recently. Those are actually meaningless and will contribute a very very tiny percentage of profits into the future. The reason Teslas valuation is so high is because people value it as an AI company which may dominate Robo taxis and humanoid robots in the future
- fleshdaddy 3y ago
  Why do you say that? It seems like it’s going to be really hard to build a network of fast charging stations for EVs and Tesla has a big head start it seems like.
  - xref 3y ago
    Nobody remembers the first gas station. Nobody remembers who built the better gas pump. EV charging is already well down the path of simply being another commodity
  - kelnos 3y ago
    Why would that be hard? Aside from company politics, what's stopping Shell or Exxon or BP from outfitting their gas stations with EV charging equipment? Clearly they don't see such a move as profitable right now, but as EV adoption increases, that could change. I'm not saying doing so is trivial; aside from the equipment cost, many/most/all of those stations will also need electrical supply upgrades. But they at least already have the land, and a company like Tesla will have to deal with equipment cost, electrical supply upgrades, and the cost of acquiring land.
  - sixQuarks 3y ago
    It is hard. But tesla is opening it up to the competition basically for free. It’s actually a bad move for tesla if you’re only concerned with profit, but it aligns with their mission of accelerating the transition to sustainable energy. People just find it hard to believe that a company that size actually cares about its mission
kelnos 3y ago
Tesla is just building big transformers and ways to plug cars into them, though. They're not building power plants; they still have to buy their "fuel" from third parties. To me, that makes this aspect of their business much less compelling.
- martindbp 3y ago
  They're building a virtual distributed power plant though [1], and they're building solar. [1] https://www.tesla.com/support/energy/tesla-virtual-power-plant-pge https://www.tesla.com/support/energy/tesla-virtual-power-pla...

sixQuarks 3y ago

It’s funny that people have been coming out of the woodwork finally, realizing Teslas worth the valuation because of the charging station partnerships they’ve done recently. Those are actually meaningless and will contribute a very very tiny percentage of profits into the future. The reason Teslas valuation is so high is because people value it as an AI company which may dominate Robo taxis and humanoid robots in the future

fleshdaddy 3y ago
Why do you say that? It seems like it’s going to be really hard to build a network of fast charging stations for EVs and Tesla has a big head start it seems like.
- xref 3y ago
  Nobody remembers the first gas station. Nobody remembers who built the better gas pump. EV charging is already well down the path of simply being another commodity
- kelnos 3y ago
  Why would that be hard? Aside from company politics, what's stopping Shell or Exxon or BP from outfitting their gas stations with EV charging equipment? Clearly they don't see such a move as profitable right now, but as EV adoption increases, that could change. I'm not saying doing so is trivial; aside from the equipment cost, many/most/all of those stations will also need electrical supply upgrades. But they at least already have the land, and a company like Tesla will have to deal with equipment cost, electrical supply upgrades, and the cost of acquiring land.
- sixQuarks 3y ago
  It is hard. But tesla is opening it up to the competition basically for free. It’s actually a bad move for tesla if you’re only concerned with profit, but it aligns with their mission of accelerating the transition to sustainable energy. People just find it hard to believe that a company that size actually cares about its mission

kelnos 3y ago

Tesla is just building big transformers and ways to plug cars into them, though. They're not building power plants; they still have to buy their "fuel" from third parties. To me, that makes this aspect of their business much less compelling.

martindbp 3y ago
They're building a virtual distributed power plant though [1], and they're building solar. [1] https://www.tesla.com/support/energy/tesla-virtual-power-plant-pge https://www.tesla.com/support/energy/tesla-virtual-power-pla...