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Quart is an async Python web microframework

30 points by kristianpaul 3y ago

kristianpaul 3y ago
Using Quart you can, render and serve HTML templates, write (RESTful) JSON APIs, serve WebSockets, stream request and response data, do pretty much anything over the HTTP or WebSocket protocols.
skinner927 3y ago
Shouldn’t any route that interacts with the file system (including anything that calls render_template) be a sync (non-async) route? Doesn’t blocking io completely destroy any performance gain from async? If so, why do the examples in the docs show this pattern?
- peller 3y ago
  IO is blocking within that request. There's no way around that. The difference between sync and async is that with the latter, the event loop from the blocking request is freed up to handle other requests, which is where the performance gain is. If there's only a single request, then sync and async are going to look largely the same from the outside. However if there's thousands of requests, async is going to do much better.
  - manvillej 3y ago
    yup! I think of it like cooking. If you're only cooking one thing, sync & async look the same. But if you're cooking several things, you can switch between dishes as needed (asynchronous) instead of cooking each dish one at a time (synchronous)
- last_responder 3y ago
  I had the exact same question. Some of those docs seem much akin to how to draw an owl” with no real explanation how to solve the issues.
Already__Taken 3y ago
how does one simply shove it in a container is my current headache. wsgi, asgi nginx gunicorn is a maze
- seanhunter 3y ago
  Quart is pretty much "async flask". So you would do it exactly the same as you do for a flask app. ie a recipe like this should work just fine https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-build-and-deploy-a-flask-application-using-docker-on-ubuntu-20-04 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-buil... That said I've not done it myself (yet). It's literally something I'm doing this week. Edit to add: Here's a template that looks promising actually https://github.com/cellerich/docker-quart https://github.com/cellerich/docker-quart
  - trolan 3y ago
    I had a project which was making API calls that could take 90 seconds to generate a response from external services. My flask API was obviously blocked and when I started letting other users on I fixed the bottleneck by updating (I think) 3-5 lines of code and adding an asyncio loop. From my limited use it does seem like a drop in replacement for 'async flask'
- not_jules 3y ago
  twisted is pretty handy for WSGI apps. You don't need to use twisted's other features (async/event framework) to just setup a reactor and serve flask, so just add twisted to your requirements.txt and then make the entry point `python3 my_server_bootstrap.py` for the server. If you want features in front of it from nginx/haproxy I would use those as a second layer with a docker compose file or something.
- westurner 3y ago
  ASGI > Implementations > Servers: https://asgi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/implementations.html#servers https://asgi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/implementations.html#s... ; Daphne, Uvicorn, Hypercorn, Granian, NGINX Unit asgiref: https://github.com/django/asgiref/blob/main/asgiref/sync.py https://github.com/django/asgiref/blob/main/asgiref/sync.py AsyncToSync, SyncToAsync a2wsgi: https://github.com/abersheeran/a2wsgi https://github.com/abersheeran/a2wsgi
BerislavLopac 3y ago
Starlette is a much better designed asgi framework.

30 points by kristianpaul 3y ago

Using Quart you can, render and serve HTML templates, write (RESTful) JSON APIs, serve WebSockets, stream request and response data, do pretty much anything over the HTTP or WebSocket protocols.

skinner927 3y ago

Shouldn’t any route that interacts with the file system (including anything that calls render_template) be a sync (non-async) route? Doesn’t blocking io completely destroy any performance gain from async? If so, why do the examples in the docs show this pattern?

peller 3y ago
IO is blocking within that request. There's no way around that. The difference between sync and async is that with the latter, the event loop from the blocking request is freed up to handle other requests, which is where the performance gain is. If there's only a single request, then sync and async are going to look largely the same from the outside. However if there's thousands of requests, async is going to do much better.
- manvillej 3y ago
  yup! I think of it like cooking. If you're only cooking one thing, sync & async look the same. But if you're cooking several things, you can switch between dishes as needed (asynchronous) instead of cooking each dish one at a time (synchronous)
last_responder 3y ago
I had the exact same question. Some of those docs seem much akin to how to draw an owl” with no real explanation how to solve the issues.

Already__Taken 3y ago

how does one simply shove it in a container is my current headache. wsgi, asgi nginx gunicorn is a maze

seanhunter 3y ago
Quart is pretty much "async flask". So you would do it exactly the same as you do for a flask app. ie a recipe like this should work just fine https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-build-and-deploy-a-flask-application-using-docker-on-ubuntu-20-04 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-buil... That said I've not done it myself (yet). It's literally something I'm doing this week. Edit to add: Here's a template that looks promising actually https://github.com/cellerich/docker-quart https://github.com/cellerich/docker-quart
- trolan 3y ago
  I had a project which was making API calls that could take 90 seconds to generate a response from external services. My flask API was obviously blocked and when I started letting other users on I fixed the bottleneck by updating (I think) 3-5 lines of code and adding an asyncio loop. From my limited use it does seem like a drop in replacement for 'async flask'
not_jules 3y ago
twisted is pretty handy for WSGI apps. You don't need to use twisted's other features (async/event framework) to just setup a reactor and serve flask, so just add twisted to your requirements.txt and then make the entry point `python3 my_server_bootstrap.py` for the server. If you want features in front of it from nginx/haproxy I would use those as a second layer with a docker compose file or something.
westurner 3y ago
ASGI > Implementations > Servers: https://asgi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/implementations.html#servers https://asgi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/implementations.html#s... ; Daphne, Uvicorn, Hypercorn, Granian, NGINX Unit asgiref: https://github.com/django/asgiref/blob/main/asgiref/sync.py https://github.com/django/asgiref/blob/main/asgiref/sync.py AsyncToSync, SyncToAsync a2wsgi: https://github.com/abersheeran/a2wsgi https://github.com/abersheeran/a2wsgi

BerislavLopac 3y ago

Starlette is a much better designed asgi framework.