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> When they hit an issue they can just google it. Now they chatgpt it.

by dfsafklsjv 3y ago

jszymborski 3y ago
And get unreliable results from a stochastic parrot
- voz_ 3y ago
  I regularly find chatgpt to be better than googling for code related stuffs.
  - jszymborski 3y ago
    I think that speaks more to how much Google search result quality has plummeted over the years more than its suitability for the task. > regularly The trouble lies in the credible sounding results that are in fact subtly (or less subtly) nonsense. It's a bit like old W3schools but instead of poor practices, its authors were half-in-the-bag
    - voz_ 3y ago
      I’ve no problem distilling those! I find stackoverflow and co to be of worse signal:noise
- logicallee 3y ago
  Edit: this is getting a lot of downvotes but it is important information. ChatGPT with GPT 4 ($20/month) is an artificial intelligence that can save hours of your time and help you debug things you couldn’t without it. It really understands code. While I will take a 4 point karma hit from downvoters who don’t know how to use ChatGPT, this information is very important to share with all programmers. >stochastic parrot This is incorrect. In the context of learning JavaScript, ChatGPT with GPT 4 ($20/month) can analyze any error if you give it the error and the code, or you can just describe what’s wrong and give it the code you wrote and it will analyze it and tell you how to correct it, even if your code is the first time anyone has done that. It might take it two tries but it’ll figure it out. It obviously understands what you tell it and follows your instructions pretty well. Limitations: the code you give it has to be small; ChatGPT doesn’t scale to larger codebases. Second limitation: if you happen to be a world expert in something, then it might have trouble understanding - haha, just kidding: if you are the best human expert in the world, ChatGPT is still smarter than you and can still fix errors you can’t fix. Rather than a stochastic parrot, it’s the best debugger on the planet. In fairness you are correct that ChatGPT is unreliable.
  - logicallee 3y ago
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> When they hit an issue they can just google it. Now they chatgpt it.

jszymborski 3y ago

And get unreliable results from a stochastic parrot

voz_ 3y ago
I regularly find chatgpt to be better than googling for code related stuffs.
- jszymborski 3y ago
  I think that speaks more to how much Google search result quality has plummeted over the years more than its suitability for the task. > regularly The trouble lies in the credible sounding results that are in fact subtly (or less subtly) nonsense. It's a bit like old W3schools but instead of poor practices, its authors were half-in-the-bag
  - voz_ 3y ago
    I’ve no problem distilling those! I find stackoverflow and co to be of worse signal:noise
logicallee 3y ago
Edit: this is getting a lot of downvotes but it is important information. ChatGPT with GPT 4 ($20/month) is an artificial intelligence that can save hours of your time and help you debug things you couldn’t without it. It really understands code. While I will take a 4 point karma hit from downvoters who don’t know how to use ChatGPT, this information is very important to share with all programmers. >stochastic parrot This is incorrect. In the context of learning JavaScript, ChatGPT with GPT 4 ($20/month) can analyze any error if you give it the error and the code, or you can just describe what’s wrong and give it the code you wrote and it will analyze it and tell you how to correct it, even if your code is the first time anyone has done that. It might take it two tries but it’ll figure it out. It obviously understands what you tell it and follows your instructions pretty well. Limitations: the code you give it has to be small; ChatGPT doesn’t scale to larger codebases. Second limitation: if you happen to be a world expert in something, then it might have trouble understanding - haha, just kidding: if you are the best human expert in the world, ChatGPT is still smarter than you and can still fix errors you can’t fix. Rather than a stochastic parrot, it’s the best debugger on the planet. In fairness you are correct that ChatGPT is unreliable.
- logicallee 3y ago
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