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With Ubuntu and RHEL clones out, what's in these days? Debian?

by reaperman 3y ago

Shawnj2 3y ago
Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu without snaps
- CameronNemo 3y ago
  You run Mint on servers?
  - jraph 3y ago
    Of course there are use cases when Mint don't replace Ubuntu. You probably can use Mint on a server but for me, the obvious Debian-like server distro is Debian itself. I can't imagine one advantage of running Mint on a server. Mint is focused on the desktop. On the desktop, Mint really seems like Ubuntu without snaps, and a specific package management that is way more conservative when it comes to upgrades. And a focus on Cinnamon and Mate. On the desktop I would formerly advise Ubuntu. Today, I would just suggest Debian, which is the distro I trust the most, or maybe Mint. I just don't see any scenario where Ubuntu could be better than either of them. I use openSUSE Tumbleweed myself. I would not recommend it to a novice user. openSUSE Leap might be a solid choice but I never tried it so it's difficult to recommend it.
    - CameronNemo 3y ago
      Incidentally, I discovered that GitLab happily supports their Runners being installed on Linux Mint. So plausibly that could be the smoking gun of people actually out there running mint on servers. Or maybe Dev workstation runners idk.
  - Shawnj2 3y ago
    That’s fair lol, seems like the best alternatives are Debian and OpenSUSE on servers
CameronNemo 3y ago
Debian, alpine if you can stomach their userland.
norgie 3y ago
Fedora (if you’re okay updating frequently), OpenSUSE
agracey 3y ago
OpenSUSE has several flavors: Leap if you want a more traditional release, Tumbleweed for a rolling release, and MicroOS for an immutable system. If you want enterprise support, Leap is binary compatible with SUSE Linux Enterprise. I work at SUSE so I’m obviously biased here but I really do think the OpenSUSE ecosystem hits the right balance for a very large majority of users and use-cases.
- unmole 3y ago
  I used SLES at a previous employer and it was absolutely rock solid. Personally, after more than a decade on Ubuntu, I finally moved to Fedora last year. While I don't have any major complaints, Tumbleweed does look tempting.

With Ubuntu and RHEL clones out, what's in these days? Debian?

Shawnj2 3y ago

Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu without snaps

CameronNemo 3y ago
You run Mint on servers?
- jraph 3y ago
  Of course there are use cases when Mint don't replace Ubuntu. You probably can use Mint on a server but for me, the obvious Debian-like server distro is Debian itself. I can't imagine one advantage of running Mint on a server. Mint is focused on the desktop. On the desktop, Mint really seems like Ubuntu without snaps, and a specific package management that is way more conservative when it comes to upgrades. And a focus on Cinnamon and Mate. On the desktop I would formerly advise Ubuntu. Today, I would just suggest Debian, which is the distro I trust the most, or maybe Mint. I just don't see any scenario where Ubuntu could be better than either of them. I use openSUSE Tumbleweed myself. I would not recommend it to a novice user. openSUSE Leap might be a solid choice but I never tried it so it's difficult to recommend it.
  - CameronNemo 3y ago
    Incidentally, I discovered that GitLab happily supports their Runners being installed on Linux Mint. So plausibly that could be the smoking gun of people actually out there running mint on servers. Or maybe Dev workstation runners idk.
- Shawnj2 3y ago
  That’s fair lol, seems like the best alternatives are Debian and OpenSUSE on servers

CameronNemo 3y ago

Debian, alpine if you can stomach their userland.

norgie 3y ago

Fedora (if you’re okay updating frequently), OpenSUSE

agracey 3y ago

OpenSUSE has several flavors: Leap if you want a more traditional release, Tumbleweed for a rolling release, and MicroOS for an immutable system. If you want enterprise support, Leap is binary compatible with SUSE Linux Enterprise. I work at SUSE so I’m obviously biased here but I really do think the OpenSUSE ecosystem hits the right balance for a very large majority of users and use-cases.

unmole 3y ago
I used SLES at a previous employer and it was absolutely rock solid. Personally, after more than a decade on Ubuntu, I finally moved to Fedora last year. While I don't have any major complaints, Tumbleweed does look tempting.