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Let's further break-up the white student category, if any interesting correlations come up. For undergraduates specifically: Ivy Leag
by NoRelToEmber 3y ago
Let's further break-up the white student category, if any interesting correlations come up. For undergraduates specifically:
Ivy League US Ratio Mean nationwide SAT score [1]
Jewish 17.2% 2.4% 7.16 n/a
Asian 19.6% 5.3% 3.71 1216
White (incl. Jewish) 50.3% 61.5% 0.82 1148
Hispanic 11.4% 17.6% 0.65 1043
Black 7.8% 12.7% 0.61 966
White (non-Jewish) 33.1% 59.1% 0.56 ~1141 (lower bound estimate assuming a generous 1284 mean Jewish SAT)
SAT score seems to offer no benefit, up until the magic cutoff somewhere between 1142 and 1216.
The numbers don't sum to 100% because multi-ethnic students, a few minor ethnicities (American-Indian, Pacific Islander..), and students categorized as "unknown" or "other" by the universities were excluded from analysis. Data on university undergraduate demographics was taken from the universities own diversity reports. Jewish representation was gathered from http://hillel.org/college-guide/list/ http://hillel.org/college-guide/list/, https://forward.com/jewish-college-guide/ https://forward.com/jewish-college-guide/, and https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/how-many-jewish-undergraduates/ https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/how-many-jewish-undergraduat..., taking the lowest estimate when sources conflicted. ejewishphilanthropy.com (eJP) points out flaws in Hillel's data gathering (e.g. showing Harvard as 30% Jewish, when eJP found it only 16%) Hillel seems to have since fixed these flaws, as the estimates they now give are in-line with those of eJP.
No correction has been made to look at only the college-age population of the US, or only at the Northeastern US where all the Ivy League universities are located, so that may be a source of some bias. It's also hard to get consistent demographics from the universities, as they all report them in slightly different ways. Corrections welcome.
[1] https://www.ednc.org/eraceing-inequities-the-influence-of-race-on-sat-scores/ https://www.ednc.org/eraceing-inequities-the-influence-of-ra...
- ec109685 3y agoWhy is being Jewish singled out but not any other religion?
- peepeepoopoo14 3y ago[flagged]
- NoRelToEmber 3y agoIt seems to have the highest predictive power regarding chance of admittance (a randomly chosen White is 11.2x more likely to be admitted if they're Jewish vs. if they're not). Though for the record, those polls considered anyone that identifies as Jewish as.. Jewish, regardless of religion. You can read more at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism In any case, if you can find the data, you're welcome to do the analysis for other religions/ethno-religious groups too.
- hgsgm 3y agoNationwide mean SAT scores aren't useful for analyzing Ivy League schools, where the mean is 200points hight.
- NoRelToEmber 3y agoThey are useful for comparing the ratio of Ivy League vs. nationwide populations. E.g. if a group had SAT scores 300 points higher than the national average, we would expect to see them overrepresented in prestigious academic positions.