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> The kebab is a Berlin invention Wait, wat? Kebab is middle-eastern food with hundreds of years of history. 'Doner kebab' (the popular one in a bread) is Turk

by zalew 15y ago

> The kebab is a Berlin invention Wait, wat? Kebab is middle-eastern food with hundreds of years of history. 'Doner kebab' (the popular one in a bread) is Turkish. German sausage has nothing to do with it. There are lots of ways you can serve kebab/shoarma and none of them are 'wrong' per se. The popularity of doner and roll is probably just a matter of convenience for customers and business owners. The sauce thing was just an observation, and frankly I don't know how what local influence made it served that way in Europe.

nir 15y ago
The word "Kebab" describes a different dish in the Middle East and in Germany.
- zalew 15y ago
  All dishes are different around the world - spaghetti, sushi, pizza, hamburger, etc. Sometimes a dish is luxury in one country and casual food in the other. It always differs, even across regions of one country, regional influences, etc. It doesn't mean it's a different dish by definition.
  - ido 15y ago
    No, literally - the middle-eastern "kebab" is called cevapcici in Europe (at least in Ausria/Germany), it's a totally different dish from dönner kebab.
    - davidw 15y ago
      Cevapcici is the southern Slav word for Kebab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%86evapi#Etymology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%86evapi#Etymology
derrida 15y ago
according to Time-Out Berlin. Yeah, according to Wikipedia, I'm wrong. Never trust a travel guide. I've been to the Emirates and what they have there is entirely different to what they have in Germany. Australia, France and the Czech Republic have something different, which is 'the greasy thing'.
- zalew 15y ago
  and that's what I said. cultures mix, cuisine is imported, adapted to local preferences, exported again around other regions, that's how it works. You were only wrong saying that kebab was invented in Germany, it's just that there's where the modern well-known in Europe Turkish doner started do gain broad popularity - that's probably what your guide meant. I assume it was the saucy thing we have all around Europe.

by zalew 15y ago

nir 15y ago

The word "Kebab" describes a different dish in the Middle East and in Germany.

zalew 15y ago
All dishes are different around the world - spaghetti, sushi, pizza, hamburger, etc. Sometimes a dish is luxury in one country and casual food in the other. It always differs, even across regions of one country, regional influences, etc. It doesn't mean it's a different dish by definition.
- ido 15y ago
  No, literally - the middle-eastern "kebab" is called cevapcici in Europe (at least in Ausria/Germany), it's a totally different dish from dönner kebab.
  - davidw 15y ago
    Cevapcici is the southern Slav word for Kebab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%86evapi#Etymology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%86evapi#Etymology

derrida 15y ago

according to Time-Out Berlin. Yeah, according to Wikipedia, I'm wrong. Never trust a travel guide. I've been to the Emirates and what they have there is entirely different to what they have in Germany. Australia, France and the Czech Republic have something different, which is 'the greasy thing'.

zalew 15y ago
and that's what I said. cultures mix, cuisine is imported, adapted to local preferences, exported again around other regions, that's how it works. You were only wrong saying that kebab was invented in Germany, it's just that there's where the modern well-known in Europe Turkish doner started do gain broad popularity - that's probably what your guide meant. I assume it was the saucy thing we have all around Europe.