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What? AMD develop their open source drivers and submit them to the kernel and they have their own set of Linux specific closed source drivers.

pengaru 3y ago
To be fair, pre-amdgpu, nvidia's proprietary linux drivers were sadly an exceptional "supported" situation. Back then it was basically just Intel's integrated graphics that had first-class mainline support. The AMD linux support is a relatively recent shift historically speaking. Intel really should get a lot more recognition for its mainline Linux graphics support though. Without their contributions over past decades we might not even have a modern graphics stack at all in-kernel.
Gordonjcp 3y ago
Yes, and the open-source ones are not accelerated, and the closed-source ones don't work.
- 5e92cb50239222b 3y ago
  Please don't spread misinformation. AMD GPUs have had full 3d acceleration out of the box for several years now. I use Linux exclusively and had great performance in 3D games on R9 380, RX 570, and RX 580, all using the mainline (obviously FOSS) driver.
  - trelane 3y ago
    Yep, and the docs are freely available. https://gpuopen.com/amd-isa-documentation/ https://gpuopen.com/amd-isa-documentation/ for AMD. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/graphics-for-linux/developer-reference/1-0/discrete-gpu.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/graphics-for-li... for Intel
  - Gordonjcp 3y ago
    No, it's got useless crippled acceleration that's only suitable for games. You can't use them for video.
    - anonbanker 3y ago
      Vulkan Video is literally supported in ffmpeg.
      - Gordonjcp 3y ago
        Okay, let me know how you get on editing video in ffmpeg. ffmpeg is one very small but important part of a complex chain.
- itsboring 3y ago
  Wow, software 3D rendering must have really gotten fast then. I play all my Steam games on Linux using the open source amdgpu driver. Or maybe I just imagined all those extra frames in RDR2. Someone should tell Valve that the Steam Deck could be a lot faster. Or, I guess the other option is that you’re spreading misinformation.
  - Gordonjcp 3y ago
    Great. Now try editing video.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - anonbanker 3y ago
      Not our fault your distro has outdated ffmpeg and mesa. Vulkan Video is nice.
      - Gordonjcp 3y ago
        Nothing uses Vulkan Video.
lmm 3y ago
They still suck though. I fully believe they're trying their best - AMD apparently can't write production-quality graphics drivers on Windows either - but I don't think they're reliable enough to be called "supported hardware", at least not yet.

pengaru 3y ago

To be fair, pre-amdgpu, nvidia's proprietary linux drivers were sadly an exceptional "supported" situation. Back then it was basically just Intel's integrated graphics that had first-class mainline support. The AMD linux support is a relatively recent shift historically speaking. Intel really should get a lot more recognition for its mainline Linux graphics support though. Without their contributions over past decades we might not even have a modern graphics stack at all in-kernel.

Gordonjcp 3y ago

Yes, and the open-source ones are not accelerated, and the closed-source ones don't work.

5e92cb50239222b 3y ago
Please don't spread misinformation. AMD GPUs have had full 3d acceleration out of the box for several years now. I use Linux exclusively and had great performance in 3D games on R9 380, RX 570, and RX 580, all using the mainline (obviously FOSS) driver.
- trelane 3y ago
  Yep, and the docs are freely available. https://gpuopen.com/amd-isa-documentation/ https://gpuopen.com/amd-isa-documentation/ for AMD. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/graphics-for-linux/developer-reference/1-0/discrete-gpu.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/docs/graphics-for-li... for Intel
- Gordonjcp 3y ago
  No, it's got useless crippled acceleration that's only suitable for games. You can't use them for video.
  - anonbanker 3y ago
    Vulkan Video is literally supported in ffmpeg.
    - Gordonjcp 3y ago
      Okay, let me know how you get on editing video in ffmpeg. ffmpeg is one very small but important part of a complex chain.
itsboring 3y ago
Wow, software 3D rendering must have really gotten fast then. I play all my Steam games on Linux using the open source amdgpu driver. Or maybe I just imagined all those extra frames in RDR2. Someone should tell Valve that the Steam Deck could be a lot faster. Or, I guess the other option is that you’re spreading misinformation.
- Gordonjcp 3y ago
  Great. Now try editing video.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - anonbanker 3y ago
    Not our fault your distro has outdated ffmpeg and mesa. Vulkan Video is nice.
    - Gordonjcp 3y ago
      Nothing uses Vulkan Video.

lmm 3y ago

They still suck though. I fully believe they're trying their best - AMD apparently can't write production-quality graphics drivers on Windows either - but I don't think they're reliable enough to be called "supported hardware", at least not yet.