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Linux(+ChomeOS) Is Now 7% of the Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide

7 points by marcodiego 3y ago

hollerith 3y ago
Then Google replaces the kernel in ChromeOS, returning Linux's share to 1%.
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necovek 3y ago
Source?
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garbagecoder 3y ago
It’s also 50% of the mobile space since it runs Android. But both of these involve Google so this isn’t really the W you think it is.
pmontra 3y ago
Is this a Tell HN with no comment and no source?
mark_l_watson 3y ago
I am a big fan of Chromebooks. Cheap, good security, and Linux container support can be very handy to have. I have a big investment in Apple gear and a few Linux laptops, but I often travel with and otherwise enjoy using my cheap little Lenovo Chromebook. I really appreciate what both Google and Apple do for security. If a Chromebook fails a system checksum while booting, it refreshes the OS. Apple provides the very nice Lockdown mode on iOS and iPadOS which I always have enabled. I no longer really trust my Linux laptops, security wise. I keep no private information on them, just public open source stuff I work on. I keep no personal info on my Linux laptops.
- z3t4 3y ago
  Where do you store your data, on your own hard drives, or on google drive ?
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  Linux can be similarly immutable and thoroughly encrypted. Check out Fedora Kionite or OpenSUSE Kalpa.
  - hollerith 3y ago
    Kinoite's /usr is not verified against a cryptographic hash on every boot, which it would need to be to match ChromeOS. Also the team in charge of ChromeOS's security is much more skilled and much better funded. Also https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/ https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/ goes on at length about its advantages, and nowhere on that page is security or attack-resistance mentioned.
- aborsy 3y ago
  ChromeOS takes the Gentoo Linux, and improves its sandboxing and verified boot. Those exist in Linux distributions too, but are not as complete. On the other hand, chromeOS is cloud based, and collects tons of telemetry. ChromeOS is not as secure if you enable the developer mode. There is also far more malware for iOS and Android, compared to the desktop Linux. Apple’s operating systems are closed, thus insecure against Apple and governments. Overall, I think one would be better off on a Linux distribution. Definitely more private, equally secure against not-so-sophisticated attackers, while the edge that Google’s and Apple’s operating systems have in security won’t stop well resourced adversaries either (as we have seen in iPhone hacks). Full freedom!
rvz 3y ago
Yeah. Thanking Google who is planning to replace the Linux kernel with the Zircon kernel in ChromeOS and will send that market share back to 1%. Android will follow suit much later. Once that happens it is back to the drawing board for the Desktop Linux crowd again.
- simonblack 3y ago
  I have driven a Mercedes and I have used Linux on my Desktop for over 20 years. Why should I care whether they're 1% or less in the market? I just don't care if you use Windows on your Desktop or drive a Chev. You can do what you like, and I can do what I like. The choice is ours!
mransom 3y ago
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7 points by marcodiego 3y ago

hollerith 3y ago

Then Google replaces the kernel in ChromeOS, returning Linux's share to 1%.

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necovek 3y ago

Source?

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garbagecoder 3y ago

It’s also 50% of the mobile space since it runs Android. But both of these involve Google so this isn’t really the W you think it is.

pmontra 3y ago

Is this a Tell HN with no comment and no source?

mark_l_watson 3y ago

I am a big fan of Chromebooks. Cheap, good security, and Linux container support can be very handy to have. I have a big investment in Apple gear and a few Linux laptops, but I often travel with and otherwise enjoy using my cheap little Lenovo Chromebook. I really appreciate what both Google and Apple do for security. If a Chromebook fails a system checksum while booting, it refreshes the OS. Apple provides the very nice Lockdown mode on iOS and iPadOS which I always have enabled. I no longer really trust my Linux laptops, security wise. I keep no private information on them, just public open source stuff I work on. I keep no personal info on my Linux laptops.

z3t4 3y ago
Where do you store your data, on your own hard drives, or on google drive ?
brucethemoose2 3y ago
Linux can be similarly immutable and thoroughly encrypted. Check out Fedora Kionite or OpenSUSE Kalpa.
- hollerith 3y ago
  Kinoite's /usr is not verified against a cryptographic hash on every boot, which it would need to be to match ChromeOS. Also the team in charge of ChromeOS's security is much more skilled and much better funded. Also https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/ https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/ goes on at length about its advantages, and nowhere on that page is security or attack-resistance mentioned.
aborsy 3y ago
ChromeOS takes the Gentoo Linux, and improves its sandboxing and verified boot. Those exist in Linux distributions too, but are not as complete. On the other hand, chromeOS is cloud based, and collects tons of telemetry. ChromeOS is not as secure if you enable the developer mode. There is also far more malware for iOS and Android, compared to the desktop Linux. Apple’s operating systems are closed, thus insecure against Apple and governments. Overall, I think one would be better off on a Linux distribution. Definitely more private, equally secure against not-so-sophisticated attackers, while the edge that Google’s and Apple’s operating systems have in security won’t stop well resourced adversaries either (as we have seen in iPhone hacks). Full freedom!

rvz 3y ago

Yeah. Thanking Google who is planning to replace the Linux kernel with the Zircon kernel in ChromeOS and will send that market share back to 1%. Android will follow suit much later. Once that happens it is back to the drawing board for the Desktop Linux crowd again.

simonblack 3y ago
I have driven a Mercedes and I have used Linux on my Desktop for over 20 years. Why should I care whether they're 1% or less in the market? I just don't care if you use Windows on your Desktop or drive a Chev. You can do what you like, and I can do what I like. The choice is ours!

mransom 3y ago

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