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Bohm was one pf the last visionaries but I feel he is wrong. Light is never a particle, it is always a wave. It only appears to us as a particle. Think about

Bohm was one pf the last visionaries but I feel he is wrong. Light is never a particle, it is always a wave. It only appears to us as a particle. Think about that! It means also that everything is always a wave! And if everything is a wave nothing is separate from anything else. That will explain spooky action at a distance. A particle is only a probability wave. And our mind cannot handle probabilities, it needs certainly. Do to create certainty it collapses the probability to provide us with the most probably outcome.

the_decider 3y ago
Photons follow wave-particle duality and electromagnetic waves can be linked to probability distributions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#:~:text=A%20photon%20(from%20Ancient%20Greek,carrier%20for%20the%20electromagnetic%20force https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#:~:text=A%20photon%20.... However, unlike electrons, photons have no exclusion principle (aka you can’t have multiple electrons in the same position) nor a repulsive potential. So the same probability wave can apply to countless photons. If you “reach into” a high amplitude portion (high probability) of an electromagnetic wave, you will “scoop out” a handful of photons. If you reach into a zero amplitude portion of the wave, you will scoop out none
inciampati 3y ago
This is a nice idea, but this line of thinking will lead to some very unusual results. The most famous is possibly the "ultraviolet catastrophe" that Planck resolved by developing a theory of quantized states and quanta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe. This theory suggests that electromagnetic radiation can be understood in terms of quantized particles, a fact that has immense experimental support. The fact that atoms, the larger of which we can directly observe individually, behave like waves also explains why the duality exists. Everything being a wave does not solve entanglement. At least it's not clear why it would.
- FollowingTheDao 3y ago
  √ This theory suggests that electromagnetic radiation can be understood in terms of quantized particles, a fact that has immense experimental support. You're assuming that the quantized particles are not also waves. As far as adam, you'll note that smaller waves are much easier to spot in the ocean then really large amplitude waves. The fact that we see Adams behaving his waves could me or not the ways are small enough for us to see them.
- lmm 3y ago
  > This is a nice idea, but this line of thinking will lead to some very unusual results. The most famous is possibly the "ultraviolet catastrophe" that Planck resolved by developing a theory of quantized states and quanta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe. Quantization is real. But I've never seen any phenomenon that can only be explained in terms of the full concept of a particle (which is a decidedly nonrigorous one in any case), and while the concept of a quantized wave is certainly counterintuitive, I'd argue it's simpler and more consistent than wave-particle duality.
Anixx 3y ago
Bohm in his own words about light: "Light is this background which is all one but its information-content has the capacity for immense diversity. Light can carry information about the entire universe. The other point is that light, by interactions of different rays, (as field theory in physics is investigating today), can produce particles and all the diverse structures of matter."

the_decider 3y ago

Photons follow wave-particle duality and electromagnetic waves can be linked to probability distributions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#:~:text=A%20photon%20(from%20Ancient%20Greek,carrier%20for%20the%20electromagnetic%20force https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#:~:text=A%20photon%20.... However, unlike electrons, photons have no exclusion principle (aka you can’t have multiple electrons in the same position) nor a repulsive potential. So the same probability wave can apply to countless photons. If you “reach into” a high amplitude portion (high probability) of an electromagnetic wave, you will “scoop out” a handful of photons. If you reach into a zero amplitude portion of the wave, you will scoop out none

inciampati 3y ago

This is a nice idea, but this line of thinking will lead to some very unusual results. The most famous is possibly the "ultraviolet catastrophe" that Planck resolved by developing a theory of quantized states and quanta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe. This theory suggests that electromagnetic radiation can be understood in terms of quantized particles, a fact that has immense experimental support. The fact that atoms, the larger of which we can directly observe individually, behave like waves also explains why the duality exists. Everything being a wave does not solve entanglement. At least it's not clear why it would.

FollowingTheDao 3y ago
√ This theory suggests that electromagnetic radiation can be understood in terms of quantized particles, a fact that has immense experimental support. You're assuming that the quantized particles are not also waves. As far as adam, you'll note that smaller waves are much easier to spot in the ocean then really large amplitude waves. The fact that we see Adams behaving his waves could me or not the ways are small enough for us to see them.
lmm 3y ago
> This is a nice idea, but this line of thinking will lead to some very unusual results. The most famous is possibly the "ultraviolet catastrophe" that Planck resolved by developing a theory of quantized states and quanta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe. Quantization is real. But I've never seen any phenomenon that can only be explained in terms of the full concept of a particle (which is a decidedly nonrigorous one in any case), and while the concept of a quantized wave is certainly counterintuitive, I'd argue it's simpler and more consistent than wave-particle duality.

Anixx 3y ago

Bohm in his own words about light: "Light is this background which is all one but its information-content has the capacity for immense diversity. Light can carry information about the entire universe. The other point is that light, by interactions of different rays, (as field theory in physics is investigating today), can produce particles and all the diverse structures of matter."