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> Yet you don't see people take such issue with terms like "Bronze Age Collapse," because these comments aren't coming from a consistent intellectual framework,
by ummonk 3y ago
> Yet you don't see people take such issue with terms like "Bronze Age Collapse," because these comments aren't coming from a consistent intellectual framework, but rather from people mindlessly repeating a shibboleth.
And because medievalists are personally invested in pushing the relativist notion that the early medieval period was just as sophisticated as the Roman Empire that preceded it.
- Apocryphon 3y agoThe Dark Ages were dark for a segment of Europe. The Roman Empire was still going strong in the east. The Bronze Age Collapse happened across a much larger area.
- Chathamization 3y agoYou seem to be confused. The Bronze Age Collapse refers to events mostly centered in the Eastern Mediterranean, even though there were impacts elsewhere. The Dark Ages refers to events mostly centered in the Western Mediterranean as well as Western Europe, even though there were impacts elsewhere.
- Apocryphon 3y agoBronze Age Collapse includes the Near East all the way to the Caucasus.
- Chathamization 3y agoRoughly the area of the Bronze Age Collapse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse#/media/File:Bronze-age-collapse.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse#/medi... Roughly the area of the Dark Ages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_Period#/media/File:Invasions_of_the_Roman_Empire_1.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_Period#/media/File:I... If anything, the area of the Dark Ages looks to be larger than that of the Bronze Age Collapse. But either way, they're both referring to events that happened within a specific geographic area.
- ummonk 3y agoWell, the Assyrian Empire was doing better than ever after the Late Bronze Age Collapse.