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Specifically which European nations count infant mortality differently? I keep hearing this claim but I've never seen anything to back it up. And it would have

Specifically which European nations count infant mortality differently? I keep hearing this claim but I've never seen anything to back it up. And it would have to be pretty much all of them to account for the difference, right?

tptacek 3y ago
Here's a paper, the first I found --- it's not about Europe, but it gives a sense of the challenge here: recoding late-prenatal and early-neonatal deaths almost 2x'd Cuba's infant mortality rate. With cites to other papers: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6681443/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6681443/
- olddustytrail 3y ago
  Cuba is not in Europe. Cuba would in no way be considered a MED country. I don't see what the challenge is. Which European countries count infant mortality differently to the USA? You made the claim.
  - tptacek 3y ago
    I didn't say a thing about Europe, did I?
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      You presented something that is a complete non-sequitur if (as, in fact, is the case) it has nothing to do with Europe in response to a question specifically about identifying which European countries have a relevant difference from the US method of computing infant mortality.
      - tptacek 3y ago
        What I think I did was write a comment that said "be a little careful" with IMR comparisons, because IMR methodologies aren't uniform. If you want to argue with someone about specific European IMR methodologies, you're going to have to find someone to write that comment. If you want to read papers about methodological issues with European IMR measurements, they're easy to find, for whatever that's worth to you. I don't much care.
        olddustytrail 3y ago
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        tptacek 3y ago
        I don't know what you're trying to say here, but it's at least clear that you've misread me.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > It’s not about Europe So it’s completely irrelevant to the question which isn’t “how could difference in infant mortality calculations abstractly impact comparisos?” but “what specific countries in Europe have a relevant difference in infant mortality calculations?”?

tptacek 3y ago

Here's a paper, the first I found --- it's not about Europe, but it gives a sense of the challenge here: recoding late-prenatal and early-neonatal deaths almost 2x'd Cuba's infant mortality rate. With cites to other papers: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6681443/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6681443/

olddustytrail 3y ago
Cuba is not in Europe. Cuba would in no way be considered a MED country. I don't see what the challenge is. Which European countries count infant mortality differently to the USA? You made the claim.
- tptacek 3y ago
  I didn't say a thing about Europe, did I?
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    You presented something that is a complete non-sequitur if (as, in fact, is the case) it has nothing to do with Europe in response to a question specifically about identifying which European countries have a relevant difference from the US method of computing infant mortality.
    - tptacek 3y ago
      What I think I did was write a comment that said "be a little careful" with IMR comparisons, because IMR methodologies aren't uniform. If you want to argue with someone about specific European IMR methodologies, you're going to have to find someone to write that comment. If you want to read papers about methodological issues with European IMR measurements, they're easy to find, for whatever that's worth to you. I don't much care.
      - olddustytrail 3y ago
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        tptacek 3y ago
        I don't know what you're trying to say here, but it's at least clear that you've misread me.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> It’s not about Europe So it’s completely irrelevant to the question which isn’t “how could difference in infant mortality calculations abstractly impact comparisos?” but “what specific countries in Europe have a relevant difference in infant mortality calculations?”?