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'you don't have an answer' and you don't have a valid argument for me to answer. I've given you my answer. "religious basis" for what? freedom of religion? Y

'you don't have an answer' and you don't have a valid argument for me to answer. I've given you my answer. "religious basis" for what? freedom of religion? Your just an unintelligent person trying to ignore the truth that it doesn't matter what my religous basis is. Jesus, Muhammed, Moses, Shiva... People have deeply held religious beliefs and it's not me trying to make someone feel small. It's me standing up to narcists like yourself who think you can bully others into supporting your message because you don't agree with religious foundations. Which is why you're saying "But Jesus..." when you have shit all knowledge of what Jesus would actually say and when that has nothing real to do with the topic at hand: Religion is a protected class and you can't force someone to use their free speech to endorse your lifestyle. Stop deflecting you coward and stick to that fact. I can defend what the Bible says - but that's irrelevant to the topic at hand because this isn't limited to the Bible and Jesus. I've given you the answer... you're just to ignorant to understand that your right to live doesn't trump my right to religion.

MarkMarine 3y ago
So many words to not say anything. You could just say, “I don’t know” and you’d appear so much more intelligent and interesting.
- wernercd 3y ago
  So few words to say "I don't have an intelligent response". My points stand no matter if you run from them or not. Freedom of religion is a protected class no matter how much it hurts your feelings that that freedom means you can't bully people into supporting something you don't like. I understand you're a bigot and won't accept alternative viewpoints. It's okay. Its also why you run from the conversation. If you actually addressed the points I made instead of deflecting you might have to admit that freedom of religion means others don't have to endorse your choices.
  - MarkMarine 3y ago
    What religion do you follow that tells you to discriminate against gay people? Show me where it says to do that in the Bible please. Show me that passage in the Bible and you might have the beginning of a point.
    - wernercd 3y ago
      What religion do you follow that you can't accept the fact that freedom of religion doesn't depend on my personal religion? Show me where in the constitution that it says that you can force others to not follow their religion? Show a law that says that America doesn't protect the religious freedom of its citizens? Show me that religion isn't a protected class and you might have a point. Stop deflecting to me. I'm not the topic of conversation. My beliefs aren't the topic of debate. You trying to bully others into not following their faith - no matter what it is - is the topic of conversation. Plenty of religions don't support gays or gay marriage (Hint: Go to any middle eastern country and walk around in drag. For reference see people getting arrested during the soccer games for wearing lgbt paraphenelia). Again, so MAYBE you'll eventually get a clue by pure repetition: My religion isn't in discussion here. I've not pushed a specific religion or belief. Your narcissism and demand that others must create stuff with your message is what's on display here. Take a step back and stop focusing on me. The problem you have is you want to destroy the rights of others. Thankfully in America? Freedom of Speech and protected classes like Religion stop you from doing so. Not making you a cake or a website? If that's "discrimination"? You are reaching for that victim card to validate your "oppression". Hint: That's not oppression or discrimination... that's simply the freedom of others to not be enslaved by you and bigots who don't agree with free choices made by others based on religious beliefs.
      - MarkMarine 3y ago
        Chris, I’m trying to meet you where you are but it’s not working. This is not the place for a discussion like this. You’re not even engaging with what I’m saying. Honest to god man I’ll talk to you about this all day and discuss it in good faith, but nested comments in HN are not the place for it. Shoot me an email, find me on Twitter, insta, whatever.

MarkMarine 3y ago

So many words to not say anything. You could just say, “I don’t know” and you’d appear so much more intelligent and interesting.

wernercd 3y ago
So few words to say "I don't have an intelligent response". My points stand no matter if you run from them or not. Freedom of religion is a protected class no matter how much it hurts your feelings that that freedom means you can't bully people into supporting something you don't like. I understand you're a bigot and won't accept alternative viewpoints. It's okay. Its also why you run from the conversation. If you actually addressed the points I made instead of deflecting you might have to admit that freedom of religion means others don't have to endorse your choices.
- MarkMarine 3y ago
  What religion do you follow that tells you to discriminate against gay people? Show me where it says to do that in the Bible please. Show me that passage in the Bible and you might have the beginning of a point.
  - wernercd 3y ago
    What religion do you follow that you can't accept the fact that freedom of religion doesn't depend on my personal religion? Show me where in the constitution that it says that you can force others to not follow their religion? Show a law that says that America doesn't protect the religious freedom of its citizens? Show me that religion isn't a protected class and you might have a point. Stop deflecting to me. I'm not the topic of conversation. My beliefs aren't the topic of debate. You trying to bully others into not following their faith - no matter what it is - is the topic of conversation. Plenty of religions don't support gays or gay marriage (Hint: Go to any middle eastern country and walk around in drag. For reference see people getting arrested during the soccer games for wearing lgbt paraphenelia). Again, so MAYBE you'll eventually get a clue by pure repetition: My religion isn't in discussion here. I've not pushed a specific religion or belief. Your narcissism and demand that others must create stuff with your message is what's on display here. Take a step back and stop focusing on me. The problem you have is you want to destroy the rights of others. Thankfully in America? Freedom of Speech and protected classes like Religion stop you from doing so. Not making you a cake or a website? If that's "discrimination"? You are reaching for that victim card to validate your "oppression". Hint: That's not oppression or discrimination... that's simply the freedom of others to not be enslaved by you and bigots who don't agree with free choices made by others based on religious beliefs.
    - MarkMarine 3y ago
      Chris, I’m trying to meet you where you are but it’s not working. This is not the place for a discussion like this. You’re not even engaging with what I’m saying. Honest to god man I’ll talk to you about this all day and discuss it in good faith, but nested comments in HN are not the place for it. Shoot me an email, find me on Twitter, insta, whatever.