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Is Bluesky still the only software which supports the AT-Protocol? Is it open source so you can run your own instance? Does Bluesky federate with other AT-Pro

by mg 3y ago

Is Bluesky still the only software which supports the AT-Protocol? Is it open source so you can run your own instance? Does Bluesky federate with other AT-Protocol instances?

ohgodplsno 3y ago
Bluesky is and will always be the only atproto using instance, because there's no open source involvement, running an instance is prohibitively hard and expensive. They run under the pretense of open standards, but are pretty much the only ones with the scale needed to run it.
- kalleboo 3y ago
  I’m still surprised that Meta is planning on using ActivityPub instead of atproto
  - Kye 3y ago
    One theory I've heard is that using a protocol with a standards body backing it gives them points with regulators.
  - ohgodplsno 3y ago
    Meta will have a hard time doing Embrace Extend Extinguish on atproto. ActivityPub however, this easily puts them in a dominant position. Meta can put more developers on ActivityPub today than the combined open source projects,all together. They will control AP, the same way Google controls the WHATWG
CSSer 3y ago
Of its exact kind, yes. Generally, no. For example, there’s a clubhouse-style audio application that operates on the protocol, and there are lots of little interesting projects that interface with the protocol in some way at a high level. The federation aspect of Bluesky/the AT-protocol hasn’t truly been launched yet as far as I can tell. If you’re familiar with BGP in DNS, the AT-protocol has a similar equivalent that will be the most expensive and resource-intensive part of the stack to run. It’s expected that there will be a few players in this space and many higher level players paying for access over time. As it currently stands, I believe that Bluesky is the only one running this part of the show right now though as they continue work on finalizing this part of the protocol and platform. They put it roughly as (paraphrasing), “federation hasn’t been switched on yet, we’re still testing,” and I think they’ve said it’s an alpha/beta state. I’m just an outside observer with an account who has read some material and followed the on-platform discourse by the team directly. If someone more directly affiliated with Bluesky would like to critique me, I’m more than open to it.

by mg 3y ago

Is Bluesky still the only software which supports the AT-Protocol? Is it open source so you can run your own instance? Does Bluesky federate with other AT-Protocol instances?

ohgodplsno 3y ago

Bluesky is and will always be the only atproto using instance, because there's no open source involvement, running an instance is prohibitively hard and expensive. They run under the pretense of open standards, but are pretty much the only ones with the scale needed to run it.

kalleboo 3y ago
I’m still surprised that Meta is planning on using ActivityPub instead of atproto
- Kye 3y ago
  One theory I've heard is that using a protocol with a standards body backing it gives them points with regulators.
- ohgodplsno 3y ago
  Meta will have a hard time doing Embrace Extend Extinguish on atproto. ActivityPub however, this easily puts them in a dominant position. Meta can put more developers on ActivityPub today than the combined open source projects,all together. They will control AP, the same way Google controls the WHATWG

CSSer 3y ago

Of its exact kind, yes. Generally, no. For example, there’s a clubhouse-style audio application that operates on the protocol, and there are lots of little interesting projects that interface with the protocol in some way at a high level. The federation aspect of Bluesky/the AT-protocol hasn’t truly been launched yet as far as I can tell. If you’re familiar with BGP in DNS, the AT-protocol has a similar equivalent that will be the most expensive and resource-intensive part of the stack to run. It’s expected that there will be a few players in this space and many higher level players paying for access over time. As it currently stands, I believe that Bluesky is the only one running this part of the show right now though as they continue work on finalizing this part of the protocol and platform. They put it roughly as (paraphrasing), “federation hasn’t been switched on yet, we’re still testing,” and I think they’ve said it’s an alpha/beta state. I’m just an outside observer with an account who has read some material and followed the on-platform discourse by the team directly. If someone more directly affiliated with Bluesky would like to critique me, I’m more than open to it.