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Doubt it. Hetzners smallest machine is something like $4/month, additional IPv4 addresses come with extra cost. They have quite tight service quotas, and this 2

Doubt it. Hetzners smallest machine is something like $4/month, additional IPv4 addresses come with extra cost. They have quite tight service quotas, and this 2M additional IPs would be almost their entire IPv4 pool.

moooo99 3y ago
I don’t know about the details, but I know Hetzner has quite a backstory with their servers being abused by spammers. I don’t know how the state is today, but maybe it’s not as unlikely as it seems?
- withinboredom 3y ago
  If they even think you are spamming, you get banned. Pretty much closed to individuals (according to Reddit, if they don’t even like the way your ID looks, you’re banned) while businesses get more leeway to do things.
  - moooo99 3y ago
    I didn’t realize they’re that strict. I have an individual account with them I occasionally use and didn’t encounter any issues with ID (I can’t even recall being ID’d tbh). That being said, I am located in Germany and have a German billing address, so maybe international customers have more issues?
    - CryptoBanker 3y ago
      They’re not closed to individuals. I’ve run two VPSs on Hetzner cloud for 2 years now…
    - reaperman 3y ago
      No one I know has had issues like that. They also don’t spam, but Hetzner is generally considered in ny circles to be a pretty newbie-friendly service especially for people looking to use basic baremetal machines. Maybe we’ve just gotten lucky, or maybe we all hail from the right geographies.
      - withinboredom 3y ago
        Those machines are pretty nice though. Great for “base load” (handling the scale you almost never go below).
  - abdullahkhalids 3y ago
    I have an account with them for my website/email. No problems. Even asked them to open up the IP for SMTP requests and they asked how many emails I wanted to send per month, and I told them it was my personal email and less than 100/month. They happily granted me access.
FinnKuhn 3y ago
Hetzner was just an example, because they are a well known. Interestingly a similar sudden increase of German Tor users also happend in 2017: https://www.chip.de/news/Raetselhafter-Nutzeranstieg-Zahl-deutscher-Tor-Nutzer-ploetzlich-explodiert_128117537.html https://www.chip.de/news/Raetselhafter-Nutzeranstieg-Zahl-de... Hetzner (and other German entities) seem to operate quite a few relays though: https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#aggregate/as https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#aggregate/as not sure if this might have something to do with it...
- jacooper 3y ago
  They don't operate the relays themselves, rather users install relays on hetzner vpses/servers.

moooo99 3y ago

I don’t know about the details, but I know Hetzner has quite a backstory with their servers being abused by spammers. I don’t know how the state is today, but maybe it’s not as unlikely as it seems?

withinboredom 3y ago
If they even think you are spamming, you get banned. Pretty much closed to individuals (according to Reddit, if they don’t even like the way your ID looks, you’re banned) while businesses get more leeway to do things.
- moooo99 3y ago
  I didn’t realize they’re that strict. I have an individual account with them I occasionally use and didn’t encounter any issues with ID (I can’t even recall being ID’d tbh). That being said, I am located in Germany and have a German billing address, so maybe international customers have more issues?
  - CryptoBanker 3y ago
    They’re not closed to individuals. I’ve run two VPSs on Hetzner cloud for 2 years now…
  - reaperman 3y ago
    No one I know has had issues like that. They also don’t spam, but Hetzner is generally considered in ny circles to be a pretty newbie-friendly service especially for people looking to use basic baremetal machines. Maybe we’ve just gotten lucky, or maybe we all hail from the right geographies.
    - withinboredom 3y ago
      Those machines are pretty nice though. Great for “base load” (handling the scale you almost never go below).
- abdullahkhalids 3y ago
  I have an account with them for my website/email. No problems. Even asked them to open up the IP for SMTP requests and they asked how many emails I wanted to send per month, and I told them it was my personal email and less than 100/month. They happily granted me access.

FinnKuhn 3y ago

Hetzner was just an example, because they are a well known. Interestingly a similar sudden increase of German Tor users also happend in 2017: https://www.chip.de/news/Raetselhafter-Nutzeranstieg-Zahl-deutscher-Tor-Nutzer-ploetzlich-explodiert_128117537.html https://www.chip.de/news/Raetselhafter-Nutzeranstieg-Zahl-de... Hetzner (and other German entities) seem to operate quite a few relays though: https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#aggregate/as https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#aggregate/as not sure if this might have something to do with it...

jacooper 3y ago
They don't operate the relays themselves, rather users install relays on hetzner vpses/servers.