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And NATO or ukrainian propaganda? Because that is also a thing, even though not as blatant. The problem with banning information, is that it is easy to abuse

And NATO or ukrainian propaganda? Because that is also a thing, even though not as blatant. The problem with banning information, is that it is easy to abuse this and it creates a martyr effect. I rather would like people be able to judge information by themself and not decide for them.

duozerk 3y ago
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- 0xDEF 3y ago
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  - duozerk 3y ago
    Looking into it you appear to be right, thanks; that single study is almost exclusively the single source of all similar articles, too. Admittedly I don't use twitter, so I don't have first hand experience in this. It's still pretty obvious that there is a propaganda effort from NATO as well, and one that seems to work a lot more than Russia's on western audiences. > There are literally viral tweets blaming Ukraine for creating COVID-19. lmao that's so insane it almost sounds like a bit
    - hutzlibu 3y ago
      "There are literally viral tweets blaming Ukraine for creating COVID-19. lmao that's so insane it almost sounds like a bit " Ah well, people exposed to propaganda can believe all kinds of weird stuff. For example many (43%!) US people believed, that Hussein was responsible for 9/11: "Do you think Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?" September 2003 responses: 47% Yes" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_con...
    - _kbh_ 3y ago
      > lmao that's so insane it almost sounds like a bit It sounds like a bit but the Russians have some wild state based propaganda stuff like that Ukraine was using mutant super soldiers, that Ukraine had black magic witch battalions and that Ukraine was breading pigeons that where modified to spread viruses to kill Russians.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  But I also see russian propaganda, so I can compare and confirm it is not at all on the same level. But if I would not been able anymore to see the russian point of view, then I would start to suspect they have a point I am not allowed to see, to keep me under control. But now I can see it and so I can see that their point is just russian nationalism/empire thinking with zero interest of truth, just power. Full of literal lies. So yes, you also can find lies and manipulation in western reporting. But I have a hard time understanding why anyone can think it is the same.
timeon 3y ago
NATO or Ukraine are not invading any European country.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  NATO member Turkey is regulary doing raids in Syria and they also annected territory there. And they did not really take it from evil Assad, but from the kurds. And when 47% of americans believed, that Hussein was responsible for 9/11, than this is also the result of propaganda to create support for a illegal war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_con...

duozerk 3y ago

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0xDEF 3y ago
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- duozerk 3y ago
  Looking into it you appear to be right, thanks; that single study is almost exclusively the single source of all similar articles, too. Admittedly I don't use twitter, so I don't have first hand experience in this. It's still pretty obvious that there is a propaganda effort from NATO as well, and one that seems to work a lot more than Russia's on western audiences. > There are literally viral tweets blaming Ukraine for creating COVID-19. lmao that's so insane it almost sounds like a bit
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    "There are literally viral tweets blaming Ukraine for creating COVID-19. lmao that's so insane it almost sounds like a bit " Ah well, people exposed to propaganda can believe all kinds of weird stuff. For example many (43%!) US people believed, that Hussein was responsible for 9/11: "Do you think Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?" September 2003 responses: 47% Yes" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_con...
  - _kbh_ 3y ago
    > lmao that's so insane it almost sounds like a bit It sounds like a bit but the Russians have some wild state based propaganda stuff like that Ukraine was using mutant super soldiers, that Ukraine had black magic witch battalions and that Ukraine was breading pigeons that where modified to spread viruses to kill Russians.
hutzlibu 3y ago
But I also see russian propaganda, so I can compare and confirm it is not at all on the same level. But if I would not been able anymore to see the russian point of view, then I would start to suspect they have a point I am not allowed to see, to keep me under control. But now I can see it and so I can see that their point is just russian nationalism/empire thinking with zero interest of truth, just power. Full of literal lies. So yes, you also can find lies and manipulation in western reporting. But I have a hard time understanding why anyone can think it is the same.

timeon 3y ago

NATO or Ukraine are not invading any European country.

hutzlibu 3y ago
NATO member Turkey is regulary doing raids in Syria and they also annected territory there. And they did not really take it from evil Assad, but from the kurds. And when 47% of americans believed, that Hussein was responsible for 9/11, than this is also the result of propaganda to create support for a illegal war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_con...