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Or maybe they realize that once there is "Ivy League" on your resume, you pretty much cannot fail at life and will always find a good job no matter what, so mig

Or maybe they realize that once there is "Ivy League" on your resume, you pretty much cannot fail at life and will always find a good job no matter what, so might as well have a good time, instead of spending all your free time studying in pursuit of prestige.

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soperj 3y ago
I know at my work they purposefully did not hire an ivy league grad with a masters because they figured they wouldn't stick around long.
compiler-guy 3y ago
I didn’t go to an Ivy League school, but I did go to Stanford. I assure you there are many of my classmates who failed at life, don’t have good jobs, and are otherwise don’t fit that description. An elite education is like a golden ticket, to be sure, but it doesn’t guarantee anything at all. Plenty of folks screw it up. Twenty-plus years now after my degree and no one cares at all about where I graduated. If I don’t keep up, I’m overboard just like anyone else.
- throwawayadvsec 3y ago
  The problem is that going to Stanford is skewing your definition of what "failing at life" is and of what a "good job" is.
  - TrackerFF 3y ago
    For sure. When the majority if your (elite school) class "meet expectation" by going to the same elite jobs, getting a normal job can seem like a failure in life - even though that job would be pretty sweet for the majority of the nation. When I went to business school, a bunch of the grads went to investment banks, consulting firms, hedge funds, private equity, PM roles at tech firms, and the likes. At the same time, some of my classmates felt deeply unsatisfied that they "only" got offers from big 4 firms.
  - compiler-guy 3y ago
    This assumes way too much, and all of it without any evidence. In particular, it assumes that my entire sense of what constitutes success and failure comes from my admittedly elite education. But it has been decades since I graduated, and I have seen a lot of life since that time. In the decades since we graduated, plenty of my classmates have dealt with suicidal behavior, long term disabilities due to alcoholism or stronger drugs, repeated failed marriages, and a complete inability to hold down a job. Elite education sets you up for success, but it doesn’t just hand it to you once you get it. Plenty of people screw it up big time. The self-destructive behavior described in the article can continue in other walks of life and it does catch up. Especially as you get further away from your college days.

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soperj 3y ago

I know at my work they purposefully did not hire an ivy league grad with a masters because they figured they wouldn't stick around long.

compiler-guy 3y ago

I didn’t go to an Ivy League school, but I did go to Stanford. I assure you there are many of my classmates who failed at life, don’t have good jobs, and are otherwise don’t fit that description. An elite education is like a golden ticket, to be sure, but it doesn’t guarantee anything at all. Plenty of folks screw it up. Twenty-plus years now after my degree and no one cares at all about where I graduated. If I don’t keep up, I’m overboard just like anyone else.

throwawayadvsec 3y ago
The problem is that going to Stanford is skewing your definition of what "failing at life" is and of what a "good job" is.
- TrackerFF 3y ago
  For sure. When the majority if your (elite school) class "meet expectation" by going to the same elite jobs, getting a normal job can seem like a failure in life - even though that job would be pretty sweet for the majority of the nation. When I went to business school, a bunch of the grads went to investment banks, consulting firms, hedge funds, private equity, PM roles at tech firms, and the likes. At the same time, some of my classmates felt deeply unsatisfied that they "only" got offers from big 4 firms.
- compiler-guy 3y ago
  This assumes way too much, and all of it without any evidence. In particular, it assumes that my entire sense of what constitutes success and failure comes from my admittedly elite education. But it has been decades since I graduated, and I have seen a lot of life since that time. In the decades since we graduated, plenty of my classmates have dealt with suicidal behavior, long term disabilities due to alcoholism or stronger drugs, repeated failed marriages, and a complete inability to hold down a job. Elite education sets you up for success, but it doesn’t just hand it to you once you get it. Plenty of people screw it up big time. The self-destructive behavior described in the article can continue in other walks of life and it does catch up. Especially as you get further away from your college days.