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You are telling people who are being abused that it's their fault that they didn't leave. This is victim blaming.

by joe__f 3y ago

edanm 3y ago
Are you really considering a tough work environment at a high tech company to be abuse? At company that little voluntarily choose to be employed at? Do you know what conditions are like in most jobs?
- bombolo 3y ago
  Freedom to be exploited or be homeless…
  - edanm 3y ago
    I mean, that's not an "against Twitter" complaint, that's an "against everything in the way the world works" complaint. I think it's a pretty wrong complaint too, but for sure that's not on Twitter. (And I really don't think Twitter employees are the best case study here, they are mostly capable of not literally being homeless if they work somewhere else.)
    - jojojaf 3y ago
      Yes as in, why is it normalised that you would expect to pushed too hard in many work environments, and it be on you to deal with this? Elon Musk is just a poster child for this kind of institutionalised bullying As in my OP here, if you've set up your life around working at Twitter and then a new CEO rocks up and demands everyone 'go hard or go home', then sure you can go home and if you don't like his approach then eventually you'll have to. There will be people who find it more difficult to change jobs for whatever reason, and while they need to take responsibility for getting themselves out of a bad situation, it's not their fault that a new bully turned up in a position of authority on their block
- o1y32 3y ago
  Easy to type that on your keyboard. Maybe work at Twitter for 3 months under H1B and come back and tell us how well it goes.
paxys 3y ago
The actual insulting part is telling a group of skilled individuals who are willingly working a job and getting a good salary that they are "victims" and helpless and abused. Maybe let them do their thing, and you do yours. There's no need to be outraged on behalf of anyone else.

You are telling people who are being abused that it's their fault that they didn't leave. This is victim blaming.

by joe__f 3y ago

You are telling people who are being abused that it's their fault that they didn't leave. This is victim blaming.

Are you really considering a tough work environment at a high tech company to be abuse? At company that little voluntarily choose to be employed at? Do you know what conditions are like in most jobs?

bombolo 3y ago
Freedom to be exploited or be homeless…
- edanm 3y ago
  I mean, that's not an "against Twitter" complaint, that's an "against everything in the way the world works" complaint. I think it's a pretty wrong complaint too, but for sure that's not on Twitter. (And I really don't think Twitter employees are the best case study here, they are mostly capable of not literally being homeless if they work somewhere else.)
  - jojojaf 3y ago
    Yes as in, why is it normalised that you would expect to pushed too hard in many work environments, and it be on you to deal with this? Elon Musk is just a poster child for this kind of institutionalised bullying As in my OP here, if you've set up your life around working at Twitter and then a new CEO rocks up and demands everyone 'go hard or go home', then sure you can go home and if you don't like his approach then eventually you'll have to. There will be people who find it more difficult to change jobs for whatever reason, and while they need to take responsibility for getting themselves out of a bad situation, it's not their fault that a new bully turned up in a position of authority on their block
o1y32 3y ago
Easy to type that on your keyboard. Maybe work at Twitter for 3 months under H1B and come back and tell us how well it goes.

paxys 3y ago

The actual insulting part is telling a group of skilled individuals who are willingly working a job and getting a good salary that they are "victims" and helpless and abused. Maybe let them do their thing, and you do yours. There's no need to be outraged on behalf of anyone else.