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I want to do same thing with smart plugs. There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere. I don't want to c

I want to do same thing with smart plugs. There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere. I don't want to control from anywhere dammit. I just want control on my LAN. Edit: At least on amazon.in I could not find any. https://www.amazon.in/s?k=smart+plugs https://www.amazon.in/s?k=smart+plugs

btzs 3y ago
Get one with preflashed Tasmota. They are local connection only.
jjnoakes 3y ago
> There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere. Don't ZigBee and zwave smart plugs work locally only?
- lima 3y ago
  Yep. Zigbee is the way to go - it is a whole ecosystem of "local by design" devices.
  - tjoff 3y ago
    If starting anew Thread is probably a better bet. Such as the Eve smart plug. But with both zigbee/thread the problem is shifted towards the gateway instead so you'll have to do it yourself / pick one tu trust there. But here I think/hope Thread is going to have better interoperability.
    - malermeister 3y ago
      With ZigBee at least there's dumb gateways that just plug into USB. I run one of those using a raspberry pi!
- nucleardog 3y ago
  Yep. Both are local only by design. And if you don’t want to deal with the hub potentially being your next issue, you can always throw home assistant on a computer / raspberry pi / whatever and control them locally. If you want remote access when you’re off your network, it’s up to you to figure out how to securely get the bits from your phone to your home assistant server.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    > it’s up to you to figure out how to securely get the bits from your phone to your home assistant server. And that's not really terribly hard. I run a VPN server at home, and connect from my phone through that.
CapstanRoller 3y ago
Tasmota is what you need! https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html https://tasmota.github.io/docs/ https://tasmota.github.io/docs/ https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota
NavinF 3y ago
Such smart plugs exist and it's right in the name: https://cloudfree.shop/ https://cloudfree.shop/ Dunno if they ship to India, but I'm sure you can find similar products on AliExpress if you search for the same keywords
- jonpurdy 3y ago
  +1 for Cloudfree. I don't know much about IoT but I bought 5 of their plugs and they literally took under a minute to get set up and running. Another few minutes to get data off of them and into Influx Cloud using Python. I wish more manufacturers provided this sort of thing!
janfoeh 3y ago
Eve (former Elgato) smartplugs are local-only Homekit devices.
raesene9 3y ago
I get mine from here https://www.mylocalbytes.com/products/smart-plug-pm https://www.mylocalbytes.com/products/smart-plug-pm , pre-flashed with Tasmota, no cloud included. they also have bulbs too. Got both setup with Home assistant, seems to work fine.
vladvasiliu 3y ago
As others have said, look for Zigbee devices. I have an Osram SomethingOrOther, that connects to my Hue bridge, which isn't connected to the internet. Philips makes a similar plug. The fact is that the Hue bridge supports connecting to a cloud for control from anywhere, so they'll advertise that since it's what many people are after. But it works perfectly fine offline, and you can manage it via Home Assistant, for example.
qwertox 3y ago
I didn't find it on amazon.in, but in Germany we have this option which I'm very happy with https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0054PSH9C https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0054PSH9C These come pre-flashed with Tasmota, which can rudimentarily be controlled via an HTTP API, and fully via MQTT. Here's a list of all Plugs and Sockets which can be flashed with this firmware: https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html
akaitea 3y ago
I have a DeLock 11826 WiFi socket smart plug which comes with Tasmota and can be flashed to newest Tasmota version, works great and no cloud
dinom 3y ago
Have you considered using a usb relay instead of a "smart plug"? https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/344691 It's often cheaper and easier.
theshrike79 3y ago
Shelly devices can be de-cloudified with a single button: https://www.shelly.cloud/ https://www.shelly.cloud/
- geek_at 3y ago
  was about to point out Shelly too which by default has cloud disabled, can be controlled by MQTT or REST API without an internet connection
Fatnino 3y ago
For the light switch in my room I slapped together a relay and a raspberry pi pico and a Bluetooth board (I think I saw recently that the pico w now has working Bluetooth as well?) Now I can control the lights from my bed even when the LAN is down. Here are my rough notes on the project https://github.com/Yossi/Bluetooth_lightswitch https://github.com/Yossi/Bluetooth_lightswitch
gubby 3y ago
> There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere Look at Shelly devices, they are exactly what you are looking for (in no way affiliated)
blackfawn 3y ago
I'd recommend looking at Tasmota and/or ESPHome support list and getting one of those. Both are 100% open source and do not talk to any external servers. Some devices can be reflashed over-the-air and some need to be taken apart and flashed via a serial header. A few devices, such as from Athom, come preloaded with Tasmota. Tasmota has a list of IN-specific devices: https://templates.blakadder.com/in.html https://templates.blakadder.com/in.html Here is an example of opening one up and connecting to the serial header: https://templates.blakadder.com/oakter_oak_plug_plus_16A.html https://templates.blakadder.com/oakter_oak_plug_plus_16A.htm...
wkat4242 3y ago
Shelly is pretty good for this. Their Android app really sucks badly but the good thing is you only need it for the initial setup. Whatever you do, don't buy TP-Link. Those had local control but they removed it due to "security concerns" in an automatic update. And of course promoting their data mining cloud had nothing to do with it.
stavros 3y ago
There are lots of those. I recommend Sonoff if you must go with wifi, but I really recommend Zigbee instead.
vin047 3y ago
Take a look at TP-Link HS100 and HS110. You can control them with this script https://github.com/softScheck/tplink-smartplug https://github.com/softScheck/tplink-smartplug
ChainOfFools 3y ago
Other than every single one that uses zigbee/zwave and not Wi-Fi. You can also use services like Cloud cutter or select devices listed on the Blakader website of tasmota-flashable silicon. Or if you're willing to go a little deeper into the weeds, you can use ESP home for more fine-grained control.
projektfu 3y ago
Kasa switches have been successfully opened up, software wise. https://python-kasa.readthedocs.io/en/latest/smartplug.html https://python-kasa.readthedocs.io/en/latest/smartplug.html

btzs 3y ago

Get one with preflashed Tasmota. They are local connection only.

jjnoakes 3y ago

> There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere. Don't ZigBee and zwave smart plugs work locally only?

lima 3y ago
Yep. Zigbee is the way to go - it is a whole ecosystem of "local by design" devices.
- tjoff 3y ago
  If starting anew Thread is probably a better bet. Such as the Eve smart plug. But with both zigbee/thread the problem is shifted towards the gateway instead so you'll have to do it yourself / pick one tu trust there. But here I think/hope Thread is going to have better interoperability.
  - malermeister 3y ago
    With ZigBee at least there's dumb gateways that just plug into USB. I run one of those using a raspberry pi!
nucleardog 3y ago
Yep. Both are local only by design. And if you don’t want to deal with the hub potentially being your next issue, you can always throw home assistant on a computer / raspberry pi / whatever and control them locally. If you want remote access when you’re off your network, it’s up to you to figure out how to securely get the bits from your phone to your home assistant server.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > it’s up to you to figure out how to securely get the bits from your phone to your home assistant server. And that's not really terribly hard. I run a VPN server at home, and connect from my phone through that.

CapstanRoller 3y ago

Tasmota is what you need! https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html https://tasmota.github.io/docs/ https://tasmota.github.io/docs/ https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota https://github.com/arendst/Tasmota

NavinF 3y ago

Such smart plugs exist and it's right in the name: https://cloudfree.shop/ https://cloudfree.shop/ Dunno if they ship to India, but I'm sure you can find similar products on AliExpress if you search for the same keywords

jonpurdy 3y ago
+1 for Cloudfree. I don't know much about IoT but I bought 5 of their plugs and they literally took under a minute to get set up and running. Another few minutes to get data off of them and into Influx Cloud using Python. I wish more manufacturers provided this sort of thing!

janfoeh 3y ago

Eve (former Elgato) smartplugs are local-only Homekit devices.

raesene9 3y ago

I get mine from here https://www.mylocalbytes.com/products/smart-plug-pm https://www.mylocalbytes.com/products/smart-plug-pm , pre-flashed with Tasmota, no cloud included. they also have bulbs too. Got both setup with Home assistant, seems to work fine.

vladvasiliu 3y ago

As others have said, look for Zigbee devices. I have an Osram SomethingOrOther, that connects to my Hue bridge, which isn't connected to the internet. Philips makes a similar plug. The fact is that the Hue bridge supports connecting to a cloud for control from anywhere, so they'll advertise that since it's what many people are after. But it works perfectly fine offline, and you can manage it via Home Assistant, for example.

qwertox 3y ago

I didn't find it on amazon.in, but in Germany we have this option which I'm very happy with https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0054PSH9C https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0054PSH9C These come pre-flashed with Tasmota, which can rudimentarily be controlled via an HTTP API, and fully via MQTT. Here's a list of all Plugs and Sockets which can be flashed with this firmware: https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html https://templates.blakadder.com/plug.html

akaitea 3y ago

I have a DeLock 11826 WiFi socket smart plug which comes with Tasmota and can be flashed to newest Tasmota version, works great and no cloud

dinom 3y ago

Have you considered using a usb relay instead of a "smart plug"? https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/344691 It's often cheaper and easier.

theshrike79 3y ago

Shelly devices can be de-cloudified with a single button: https://www.shelly.cloud/ https://www.shelly.cloud/

geek_at 3y ago
was about to point out Shelly too which by default has cloud disabled, can be controlled by MQTT or REST API without an internet connection

Fatnino 3y ago

For the light switch in my room I slapped together a relay and a raspberry pi pico and a Bluetooth board (I think I saw recently that the pico w now has working Bluetooth as well?) Now I can control the lights from my bed even when the LAN is down. Here are my rough notes on the project https://github.com/Yossi/Bluetooth_lightswitch https://github.com/Yossi/Bluetooth_lightswitch

gubby 3y ago

> There's not a single smart plug on market that won't connect to cloud to control plug from anywhere Look at Shelly devices, they are exactly what you are looking for (in no way affiliated)

blackfawn 3y ago

I'd recommend looking at Tasmota and/or ESPHome support list and getting one of those. Both are 100% open source and do not talk to any external servers. Some devices can be reflashed over-the-air and some need to be taken apart and flashed via a serial header. A few devices, such as from Athom, come preloaded with Tasmota. Tasmota has a list of IN-specific devices: https://templates.blakadder.com/in.html https://templates.blakadder.com/in.html Here is an example of opening one up and connecting to the serial header: https://templates.blakadder.com/oakter_oak_plug_plus_16A.html https://templates.blakadder.com/oakter_oak_plug_plus_16A.htm...

wkat4242 3y ago

Shelly is pretty good for this. Their Android app really sucks badly but the good thing is you only need it for the initial setup. Whatever you do, don't buy TP-Link. Those had local control but they removed it due to "security concerns" in an automatic update. And of course promoting their data mining cloud had nothing to do with it.

stavros 3y ago

There are lots of those. I recommend Sonoff if you must go with wifi, but I really recommend Zigbee instead.

vin047 3y ago

Take a look at TP-Link HS100 and HS110. You can control them with this script https://github.com/softScheck/tplink-smartplug https://github.com/softScheck/tplink-smartplug

ChainOfFools 3y ago

Other than every single one that uses zigbee/zwave and not Wi-Fi. You can also use services like Cloud cutter or select devices listed on the Blakader website of tasmota-flashable silicon. Or if you're willing to go a little deeper into the weeds, you can use ESP home for more fine-grained control.

projektfu 3y ago

Kasa switches have been successfully opened up, software wise. https://python-kasa.readthedocs.io/en/latest/smartplug.html https://python-kasa.readthedocs.io/en/latest/smartplug.html