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Why? Why can't we effort to find companies to work for where we can grow and stay for the long haul? Places where we can gain experience from, for example, seei
by t-writescode 3y ago
Why? Why can't we effort to find companies to work for where we can grow and stay for the long haul? Places where we can gain experience from, for example, seeing our solutions and theories stand the test of time? Iterate on them, watch others grow meaningfully over several years, watch ourselves grow meaningfully over years.
I want to find a company and encourage the sort of company that pays all its employees fairly, well and with regular cost of living adjustments along with promotions (or raises), that I can remain with and see through it.
As employees, we should be encouraging companies to grow a culture of employee retention; and employers should be efforting toward the same.
This race to the bottom needs to stop; and, "Hacker News" wants to be a place full of startups. That is, a place full of companies that can make those decisions for their whole staff early and cultivate that style, themselves.
- koolba 3y agoYou can’t have that because those places do not exist at scale. Smaller companies do not have the resources for growth and large companies simply do not care about you. You’ll cap out at the small shop, and you’ll become a predictable line item in a spreadsheet at the big shop. It’s fine to stay where you are. Stick around, know the place inside out, embrace the culture, be the culture! But, if the goal is to maximize take home pay, the answer is to regularly find a new workplace. That’s the only way to maintain an annualized compensation growth rate that exceeds inflation.
- aprdm 3y agothat's wrong in so many levels, once you're director+ or staff+ it's very unlikely that you will make more money moving rather than going deeper
- scarface_74 3y agoYes and if you’re six foot five+ and can play basketball well you should choose to play for the best basketball team.
- xvector 3y agoDo you have any guides/tips on how to get to Director+/Staff+?
- aprdm 3y agoStay in a company for long enough time to get the experience required :) There's a lot of books on it, "Staff Engineer: Leadership beyond .." is a good one (more towards Staff rather than Mgr/Director). I rarely see people being hired at those levels, it's usually people from within the org that gets promoted with time.
- oblio 3y agoYou're just a number to companies. If Bob from Accounting convinces Dave the VP your number is suboptimal or worse, counterproductive, you're gone, after 20 years of loyal and probably underpaid service.