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In my country, LSD, mescaline, magic mushrooms, and DMT, are class A controlled substances, same as methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and fentanyl. Class A bein
by EdwardDiego 3y ago
In my country, LSD, mescaline, magic mushrooms, and DMT, are class A controlled substances, same as methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and fentanyl.
Class A being drugs that pose a "very high risk of harm". Which, you know, if I could post comments on our legislation, I'd be adding a bunch of "[citation needed]"s in that list of substances that apparently have a very high risk of harm.
And like other jurisdictions, there's some real bloody oddities in the law in this area.
E.g., a man was charged for importing 18kg of DMT when he ordered 18kg of Mimosa tenuiflora root bark online, as the bark isn't explicitly handled in law as a prohibited plant like Coca leaf (class C, far lower severity of sentencing) and Papaver somniferum (class B), so it falls through to the default of "any substance containing a class A controlled substance is also class A".
So he could get life in prison, like he imported 18kg of fentanyl.
Hopefully the sentencing judge is reasonable, but the fact that he's facing the same penalty for 18kg of bark that contains about 1 - 2% DMT as you would for importing enough fentanyl to kill 9 million people shows that our law is a bit of an ass.
- bryanrasmussen 3y agoThis is the same way that one weighs LSD that is on paper, unfortunately. Thus a lot of paper with very little LSD on it is worse than a little bit of paper with a lot of LSD on it.
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- funnymony 3y agoCould you elaborate? Why is it so?
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- bryanrasmussen 3y agoSupreme court ruled https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1996/01/23/supreme-court-rules-weight-in-lsd-sentencing-includes-carrier-medium/7410ca8e-09e5-4b17-8523-38029fcf8882/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1996/01/23/s...
- codetrotter 3y agoSeems that at least parts of the US government has realised that carrier medium weight should not be used for LSD. > In the case of LSD on a carrier medium (e.g., a sheet of blotter paper), do not use the weight of the LSD/carrier medium. Instead, treat each dose of LSD on the carrier medium as equal to 0.4 mg of LSD for the purposes of the Drug Quantity Table. https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/amendment/488 https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/amendment/488
- bryanrasmussen 3y agohuh, ok, it seems like things have changed some time in the last 27 years https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1996/01/23/supreme-court-rules-weight-in-lsd-sentencing-includes-carrier-medium/7410ca8e-09e5-4b17-8523-38029fcf8882/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1996/01/23/s...
- codetrotter 3y ago> brushed aside a U.S. Sentencing Commission rule establishing a uniform presumptive weight of 0.4 milligrams for all doses of LSD, regardless of the carrier. Oof :(
- bryanrasmussen 3y agoyeah, so now I wonder which it is. Of course it will also depend on the state I guess.
- tl_donson 3y ago400 μg per dose is still probably overestimating by quite a bit.
- asah 3y agoHe was convicted and sentenced with 7 months home detention. https://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/editors-picks/8729620/Man-imported-hallucinogen-bark https://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/editors-picks/87...
- EdwardDiego 3y agoNicely done judge. But it's still ridiculous that he pleaded guilty to a charge of importing 18kg of DMT, when the results of testing the 18kg of bark he imported were that the "The bark contained 0.57 per cent of DMT." So, about 103 grams of DMT, assuming 100% efficiency in extracting it.
- saiya-jin 3y agoWe had/have case back home in our rather primitive country re this, where former professional athlete started having joint issues in later age. He started growing hemp/weed for his own use, I guess he crossed 0.7% threshold for THC. He made ointments and tinctures for him, and you can't do that with 1 plant, not for serious use during whole year. They caught him, and they are trying him like some mob kingpin, facing decades in jail and IIRC he got such sentence. EU country. Former olympic representant of our country, self medicating since current medicine can't treat him well enough. Kill a person in cold blood, rape a child or two and you get maybe 1/3rd of that sentence. Fuck that place, never coming back.
- ThePowerOfFuet 3y agoBut yet no name-and-shame for the country?
- andromeduck 3y agoDoesn't DMT also naturally exist? So lidke any time you buy a live anim you're buying DMT.
- spurgu 3y agoIt exists in many different plants and also in a few animals, for example the Colorado River toad.
- kennyloginz 3y agoThe toad is 5meoDMT
- spurgu 3y agoYes, one of the two main DMT types.