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Fair point. I was only considering the perspective of US citizens. It does make me wonder how much the ratio of forced labor H1B situations has gone up at Twit

by lrvick 3y ago

Fair point. I was only considering the perspective of US citizens. It does make me wonder how much the ratio of forced labor H1B situations has gone up at Twitter as US citizens all bail from the fire. I cannot imagine why anyone would work there if they had a choice at this point.

neilk 3y ago
According to some recent articles from mainstream media: There are about 550 full-time engineers at Twitter. [1] There are about 625-670 H1-B holders working at Twitter.[2] This isn't quite the full story since of course H1-B holders might be doing other jobs than engineering; many of those 550 engineers are not US-based; there are other visas for foreign workers in the USA than the H1-B; and Musk has reassigned some workers from his other companies to work at Twitter. But it sure looks like the answer is: a lot! [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/twitter-is-down-to-fewer-than-550-full-time-engineers.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/twitter-is-down-to-fewer-tha... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/11/04/twitter-and-other-tech-layoffs-raise-h-1b-visa-employment-issues/?sh=20e4f5a14db6 https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/11/04/twitt...
- TheCoelacanth 3y ago
  More accurately there were that many H1-B holders before the layoffs. After getting rid of 80% of employees, that number has surely dropped.
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ajmurmann 3y ago
The entire H1B situation is bad for everyone in tech. Because it's significantly harder for H1B holders to change jobs, they have a harder negotiation position and thus reducer upward pressure for comp.
- lanstin 3y ago
  Even worse they can’t disagree as easily with bad ideas from leadership. A healthy tech organization needs to make decisions based on negotiations between what is wished to be and what is; making a significant portion of the people who know the ground truth of things be reluctant to speak up when that ground truth is inconvenient can make for some pretty bad decisions.
- mechanical_bear 3y ago
  It’s bad for everyone in tech because it drives wages down artificially.
o1y32 3y ago
Even US citizens need health care and very likely has mortgage to pay.

by lrvick 3y ago

neilk 3y ago

According to some recent articles from mainstream media: There are about 550 full-time engineers at Twitter. [1] There are about 625-670 H1-B holders working at Twitter.[2] This isn't quite the full story since of course H1-B holders might be doing other jobs than engineering; many of those 550 engineers are not US-based; there are other visas for foreign workers in the USA than the H1-B; and Musk has reassigned some workers from his other companies to work at Twitter. But it sure looks like the answer is: a lot! [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/twitter-is-down-to-fewer-than-550-full-time-engineers.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/twitter-is-down-to-fewer-tha... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/11/04/twitter-and-other-tech-layoffs-raise-h-1b-visa-employment-issues/?sh=20e4f5a14db6 https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/11/04/twitt...

TheCoelacanth 3y ago
More accurately there were that many H1-B holders before the layoffs. After getting rid of 80% of employees, that number has surely dropped.

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ajmurmann 3y ago

The entire H1B situation is bad for everyone in tech. Because it's significantly harder for H1B holders to change jobs, they have a harder negotiation position and thus reducer upward pressure for comp.

lanstin 3y ago
Even worse they can’t disagree as easily with bad ideas from leadership. A healthy tech organization needs to make decisions based on negotiations between what is wished to be and what is; making a significant portion of the people who know the ground truth of things be reluctant to speak up when that ground truth is inconvenient can make for some pretty bad decisions.
mechanical_bear 3y ago
It’s bad for everyone in tech because it drives wages down artificially.

o1y32 3y ago

Even US citizens need health care and very likely has mortgage to pay.