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Why does the EU get all the nice things? Apple's piss poor Document apps and their horrible Photos app made me give up on the whole ecosystem. The download and

Why does the EU get all the nice things? Apple's piss poor Document apps and their horrible Photos app made me give up on the whole ecosystem. The download and upload of photos to iCloud is painful even on fast wifi.

mhoad 3y ago
Because they have spent a long time building out good consumer protection laws. The US could have this also, it’s a political choice not to and is instead more of an enterprise owned state at this point.
CharlesW 3y ago
> Apple's piss poor Document apps and their horrible Photos app made me give up on the whole ecosystem. The download and upload of photos to iCloud is painful even on fast wifi. Did you last use these in the 90s? iWork's native apps are great (I can't speak the web apps), and I moved my personal library of 50K photos (many RAW) to Apple Photos from Lightroom after months of evaluating literally every other solution.
- FollowingTheDao 3y ago
  Apple photos turned my raw images white space into a pink hue. It was totally unusable to edit raw photos from a canon camera. Never mind how long it takes to back up rough photos in iCloud.
  - CharlesW 3y ago
    > Apple photos turned my raw images white space into a pink hue. Apple Photos does non-destructive editing only, and the nice thing about that is that your captures are always sacrosanct. https://tidbits.com/2019/06/14/the-ins-and-outs-of-non-destructive-editing-in-photos-for-mac-and-ios/ https://tidbits.com/2019/06/14/the-ins-and-outs-of-non-destr... I don’t know how Apple’s RAW converter stacks up against professional alternatives, but happily there are great professional options that plug into Apple Photos. (I use RAW Power, created by the lead developer of Aperture.)
arlcode 3y ago
Part of the reason is that the Big Tech companies are great at making money without paying taxes or providing jobs in the EU. They are also syphoning European data for free to the US which weakens the European position in transatlantic negotiations about bilateral data access for law enforcement (why would the US agree to anything if they can simply issue a domestic court order). All in all Apple and friends have very little political leverage on EU law making (direct bribes are very risky and rare) and given the size of the European market they will comply with almost anything. If they leave after all, a European competitor might fill the void. Also many people welcome the regulation of market domineering companies and more won't care. Remember that many European societies are traditionally somewhat sceptical of unrestricted markets and their players. It's therefore a viable political strategy to continue the path of putting them in their place.

mhoad 3y ago

Because they have spent a long time building out good consumer protection laws. The US could have this also, it’s a political choice not to and is instead more of an enterprise owned state at this point.

CharlesW 3y ago

> Apple's piss poor Document apps and their horrible Photos app made me give up on the whole ecosystem. The download and upload of photos to iCloud is painful even on fast wifi. Did you last use these in the 90s? iWork's native apps are great (I can't speak the web apps), and I moved my personal library of 50K photos (many RAW) to Apple Photos from Lightroom after months of evaluating literally every other solution.

FollowingTheDao 3y ago
Apple photos turned my raw images white space into a pink hue. It was totally unusable to edit raw photos from a canon camera. Never mind how long it takes to back up rough photos in iCloud.
- CharlesW 3y ago
  > Apple photos turned my raw images white space into a pink hue. Apple Photos does non-destructive editing only, and the nice thing about that is that your captures are always sacrosanct. https://tidbits.com/2019/06/14/the-ins-and-outs-of-non-destructive-editing-in-photos-for-mac-and-ios/ https://tidbits.com/2019/06/14/the-ins-and-outs-of-non-destr... I don’t know how Apple’s RAW converter stacks up against professional alternatives, but happily there are great professional options that plug into Apple Photos. (I use RAW Power, created by the lead developer of Aperture.)

arlcode 3y ago

Part of the reason is that the Big Tech companies are great at making money without paying taxes or providing jobs in the EU. They are also syphoning European data for free to the US which weakens the European position in transatlantic negotiations about bilateral data access for law enforcement (why would the US agree to anything if they can simply issue a domestic court order). All in all Apple and friends have very little political leverage on EU law making (direct bribes are very risky and rare) and given the size of the European market they will comply with almost anything. If they leave after all, a European competitor might fill the void. Also many people welcome the regulation of market domineering companies and more won't care. Remember that many European societies are traditionally somewhat sceptical of unrestricted markets and their players. It's therefore a viable political strategy to continue the path of putting them in their place.