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"The medium is the message." In one case, your reality is being programmed. In the other, you are programming it. Watching TV is different from watching yout

by LPTS 18y ago

"The medium is the message." In one case, your reality is being programmed. In the other, you are programming it. Watching TV is different from watching youtube. "The medium is the message."

axod 18y ago
Have you found the "Select channel" button on your TV?
- LPTS 18y ago
  Are you aware of all the research on when exactly humans will change channels, which describes human behavior exactly as if humans were ants? The TV executives are. Or do you think you're some special little butterfly whose behavior is not predictable in the exact same way everyone else has predictable scientifically validated patterns of responding to TV. "Select Channel" does not function neurologically the same way youtube does. TV execs have mountains of private data on that. The difference is the activation in reasoning centers in the brain. When you watch TV, your reasoning center shuts off (and thus does not guide your remote control usage). When you use the internet to watch youtube, your reasoning center stays on. You seem to believe people have free will and aren't walking around completely hypnotized behaving in almost completely predictable ways.
  - axod 18y ago
    "Are you aware of all the research on when exactly humans will change channels" Firstly, modern TVs don't just have a "select channel". They have video on demand, recording, live pause, heck some TVs can play youtube vids etc themselves with full integrated internet capability. Perhaps you're right - maybe some people sit down on the couch, turn on the TV, and don't know how to select a different program to watch. That's not the norm though. Secondly, you can't make big generalizations about peoples usage of the TV. Different countries have vastly different quality of TV output for a start.
    - LPTS 18y ago
      Actually I'm pretty sure that if you take away the strawman (i'm not saying people don't change channels, I'm saying their remote usage isn't governed by critical thinking, it's governed by easily manipulated emotions) it is the norm, and advertising rates are determined scientifically by those data points. Interestingly, people who feel they aren't manipulated by the meta-reality and it's subconscious suggestions are just as suspectible to being manipulated by the metareality. You can make big generalizations about people's usage of TV because they have the same neurological responses to it, which is the reason advertising works, and the meaning of 'the medium is the message' and the subject of a bunch of scientific research done by corporations to manipulate you into thinking you need axe body spray. Did you know Procter Gamble uses the same propaganda techniques early communist china did, over the air? Politicians calculate exactly what effects an ad will have on a specific demographic based on the profile of the audience of the show they watch. You give people to much credit. It large numbers, like in tv viewers, their behavior is very hivelike.
      - axod 18y ago
        Thank goodness for the BBC - no adverts, quality drama,factual,news,entertainment etc :)
        LPTS 18y ago
        High quality circuses for you to enjoy while the british government continues it's quest to make 1984 come a few years late and your world slides into chaos. I didn't realize "the circuses are really good" was a defense for an accusation that a culture centered around circuses is destructive to your ability to act more like a person and less like a monkey. And you are subtly programed by the people who control the BBC rather then the american corporate interest. I fail to see a big difference.
        jodrellblank 18y ago
        OK, so it's destructive to my ability to act more like a person and less like a monkey. But I don't want to "act more like a person", I want to escape reality.
maw 18y ago
I get the same feeling of malaise after watching too much youtube as I do when watching too much traditional television.

by LPTS 18y ago

"The medium is the message." In one case, your reality is being programmed. In the other, you are programming it. Watching TV is different from watching youtube. "The medium is the message."

axod 18y ago

Have you found the "Select channel" button on your TV?

LPTS 18y ago
Are you aware of all the research on when exactly humans will change channels, which describes human behavior exactly as if humans were ants? The TV executives are. Or do you think you're some special little butterfly whose behavior is not predictable in the exact same way everyone else has predictable scientifically validated patterns of responding to TV. "Select Channel" does not function neurologically the same way youtube does. TV execs have mountains of private data on that. The difference is the activation in reasoning centers in the brain. When you watch TV, your reasoning center shuts off (and thus does not guide your remote control usage). When you use the internet to watch youtube, your reasoning center stays on. You seem to believe people have free will and aren't walking around completely hypnotized behaving in almost completely predictable ways.
- axod 18y ago
  "Are you aware of all the research on when exactly humans will change channels" Firstly, modern TVs don't just have a "select channel". They have video on demand, recording, live pause, heck some TVs can play youtube vids etc themselves with full integrated internet capability. Perhaps you're right - maybe some people sit down on the couch, turn on the TV, and don't know how to select a different program to watch. That's not the norm though. Secondly, you can't make big generalizations about peoples usage of the TV. Different countries have vastly different quality of TV output for a start.
  - LPTS 18y ago
    Actually I'm pretty sure that if you take away the strawman (i'm not saying people don't change channels, I'm saying their remote usage isn't governed by critical thinking, it's governed by easily manipulated emotions) it is the norm, and advertising rates are determined scientifically by those data points. Interestingly, people who feel they aren't manipulated by the meta-reality and it's subconscious suggestions are just as suspectible to being manipulated by the metareality. You can make big generalizations about people's usage of TV because they have the same neurological responses to it, which is the reason advertising works, and the meaning of 'the medium is the message' and the subject of a bunch of scientific research done by corporations to manipulate you into thinking you need axe body spray. Did you know Procter Gamble uses the same propaganda techniques early communist china did, over the air? Politicians calculate exactly what effects an ad will have on a specific demographic based on the profile of the audience of the show they watch. You give people to much credit. It large numbers, like in tv viewers, their behavior is very hivelike.
    - axod 18y ago
      Thank goodness for the BBC - no adverts, quality drama,factual,news,entertainment etc :)
      - LPTS 18y ago
        High quality circuses for you to enjoy while the british government continues it's quest to make 1984 come a few years late and your world slides into chaos. I didn't realize "the circuses are really good" was a defense for an accusation that a culture centered around circuses is destructive to your ability to act more like a person and less like a monkey. And you are subtly programed by the people who control the BBC rather then the american corporate interest. I fail to see a big difference.
        jodrellblank 18y ago
        OK, so it's destructive to my ability to act more like a person and less like a monkey. But I don't want to "act more like a person", I want to escape reality.

maw 18y ago

I get the same feeling of malaise after watching too much youtube as I do when watching too much traditional television.