4 ms·

This "brilliant" idea had to've been the result of at least one acid trip. Problem: your soybeans taste too much like soybeans. Solution: make them taste more

This "brilliant" idea had to've been the result of at least one acid trip. Problem: your soybeans taste too much like soybeans. Solution: make them taste more like pork! Would this be halal or kosher? I'm really hoping it isn't.

sampo 3y ago
> Would this be halal or kosher? Jewis law: "Pigs should not be eaten because they don't chew their cud." I guess you could go both ways: Soybeans don't have cud to chew, so allowed. Or: Soybeans don't chew cud, so banned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_...
- dessimus 3y ago
  Ok, but what if you installed a series of poles and mounted a wire atop, encircling the field in which these soybeans grew?
JoeAltmaier 3y ago
Is lab-grown chicken, Vegan? It doesn't contain animal-derived products. All came from a vat.
- EA-3167 3y ago
  I'm guessing that comes down to the medium used to grow it, which is often fetal bovine serum, making it non-vegan.
- shortcake27 3y ago
  Whether or not it’s vegan is largely unimportant. There are three main reasons people go vegan - environment, ethical, and health. Is lab grown meat better for the environment? Absolutely. It takes less space and removes parasitic losses such as movement, body heat etc. It can’t ever be as efficient as eating plants, but it will be orders of magnitude better than animal ag. Is lab grown meat ethical? Well, it reduces animal suffering to near zero. That’s pretty good in my opinion. But opinions will differ. Is lab grown meat healthier? Maybe. We should be able to grow higher quality cuts with fewer steroids and antibiotics. But red meat is still carcinogenic. So if someone gave up meat for health, it seems unlikely they’d eat lab grown meat.
shortcake27 3y ago
What an odd take. Obviously the problem is not that soybeans taste like soybeans. There are numerous benefits to making plant-based meat alternatives, including: 1. Better for the environment, as animal agriculture is a significant contributor of greenhouse gas emissions. 2. More efficient use of energy and space. Converting plant material into meat isn’t efficient; a lot of energy is lost in the form of heat, movement, waste products etc. The less meat we eat, the more people we can feed. 3. More ethical. Some people don’t like killing animals, but also don’t want to give up meat. Alternatives help these people align their actions with their beliefs. I was also going to include health, however this isn’t as clear cut. I’m not convinced plant-based meat alternatives are really any healthier.
- shortcake27 3y ago
  Fascinating how I get downvoted for responding logically to an illogical comment.
NikkiA 3y ago
Hopefully these silly experiments won't result in a change to the deliciousness of Edamame. Otherwise I'll be pretty mad.

sampo 3y ago

> Would this be halal or kosher? Jewis law: "Pigs should not be eaten because they don't chew their cud." I guess you could go both ways: Soybeans don't have cud to chew, so allowed. Or: Soybeans don't chew cud, so banned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_...

dessimus 3y ago
Ok, but what if you installed a series of poles and mounted a wire atop, encircling the field in which these soybeans grew?

JoeAltmaier 3y ago

Is lab-grown chicken, Vegan? It doesn't contain animal-derived products. All came from a vat.

EA-3167 3y ago
I'm guessing that comes down to the medium used to grow it, which is often fetal bovine serum, making it non-vegan.
shortcake27 3y ago
Whether or not it’s vegan is largely unimportant. There are three main reasons people go vegan - environment, ethical, and health. Is lab grown meat better for the environment? Absolutely. It takes less space and removes parasitic losses such as movement, body heat etc. It can’t ever be as efficient as eating plants, but it will be orders of magnitude better than animal ag. Is lab grown meat ethical? Well, it reduces animal suffering to near zero. That’s pretty good in my opinion. But opinions will differ. Is lab grown meat healthier? Maybe. We should be able to grow higher quality cuts with fewer steroids and antibiotics. But red meat is still carcinogenic. So if someone gave up meat for health, it seems unlikely they’d eat lab grown meat.

shortcake27 3y ago

What an odd take. Obviously the problem is not that soybeans taste like soybeans. There are numerous benefits to making plant-based meat alternatives, including: 1. Better for the environment, as animal agriculture is a significant contributor of greenhouse gas emissions. 2. More efficient use of energy and space. Converting plant material into meat isn’t efficient; a lot of energy is lost in the form of heat, movement, waste products etc. The less meat we eat, the more people we can feed. 3. More ethical. Some people don’t like killing animals, but also don’t want to give up meat. Alternatives help these people align their actions with their beliefs. I was also going to include health, however this isn’t as clear cut. I’m not convinced plant-based meat alternatives are really any healthier.

shortcake27 3y ago
Fascinating how I get downvoted for responding logically to an illogical comment.

NikkiA 3y ago

Hopefully these silly experiments won't result in a change to the deliciousness of Edamame. Otherwise I'll be pretty mad.