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Soya beans made more meat-like by adding genes for pig proteins
- valianteffort 3y agoMen should not be consuming soy, and the effect on women is equally concerning. Endocrine disruptors are a big problem.
- hombre_fatal 3y agoPopular meme, but that’s not what the evidence says. 2020 Meta analysis of 38 clinical trials: Neither soy nor isoflavone intake affects male reproductive hormones: An expanded and updated meta-analysis of clinical studies https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33383165/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33383165/ Top google result has a good evidence round up: https://theproof.com/is-soy-safe-for-men/ https://theproof.com/is-soy-safe-for-men/
- chrisldgk 3y agoPhytoestrogens (the ones found in soy beans) have nothing to do with the human hormone estrogen other than the name (and how they look in a chemical context). They do not have any measurable impact on your hormonal makeup and this bodybuilding myth has been disproven dozens of not hundreds of times. You know what contains actual mammal estrogen? Beef and milk from cows that have been given hormones to give more milk.
- bell-cot 3y agoSounds like an obvious decision for those who are allergic to meat. Maybe less obvious for serious "animal rights" vegetarians & vegans. And all too "interesting" for those who avoid meat (or pork) for religious reasons.
- more_corn 3y agoWait, this won’t work for people allergic to meat.
- replygirl 3y agoi know nothing about how allergies work, how would a soybean with 25% pork proteins not trigger a pork allergy?
- bell-cot 3y agoAllergies are to specific proteins, or sub-sections thereof. So the only question for the pork-allergic person is "does my immune system take offense to any of the pork proteins which they put into this soya bean?". (Well, okay - if "no" to that first question, then you still may want to ask "is my immune system going to start taking offense to what is in this soya bean?", and "might they suddenly change which pork proteins are in the beans, blindsiding me?".)
- bell-cot 3y agoCORRECTION: Looks like I'm wrong on this one, and findecanor is correct. Vote me down and his(?) response up. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/alpha-gal-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20428608 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/alpha-gal-syn...
- Findecanor 3y agoThere is no specific "pork allergy". People can be allergic against a carbohydrate called "alpha-gal", which is present in all mammalian meat, which includes pork. People with "meat allergy" are not sensitive to poultry, reptilian meat or shellfish (the same way). As long as this soy plant produces only the protein and not the carbohydrate, it should be fine.
- minroot 3y agoPreviously heard Cellular Agriculture, TIL Molecular Farming.
- givemeethekeys 3y agoThis "brilliant" idea had to've been the result of at least one acid trip. Problem: your soybeans taste too much like soybeans. Solution: make them taste more like pork! Would this be halal or kosher? I'm really hoping it isn't.
- sampo 3y ago> Would this be halal or kosher? Jewis law: "Pigs should not be eaten because they don't chew their cud." I guess you could go both ways: Soybeans don't have cud to chew, so allowed. Or: Soybeans don't chew cud, so banned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_...
- dessimus 3y agoOk, but what if you installed a series of poles and mounted a wire atop, encircling the field in which these soybeans grew?
- JoeAltmaier 3y agoIs lab-grown chicken, Vegan? It doesn't contain animal-derived products. All came from a vat.
- EA-3167 3y agoI'm guessing that comes down to the medium used to grow it, which is often fetal bovine serum, making it non-vegan.
- shortcake27 3y agoWhether or not it’s vegan is largely unimportant. There are three main reasons people go vegan - environment, ethical, and health. Is lab grown meat better for the environment? Absolutely. It takes less space and removes parasitic losses such as movement, body heat etc. It can’t ever be as efficient as eating plants, but it will be orders of magnitude better than animal ag. Is lab grown meat ethical? Well, it reduces animal suffering to near zero. That’s pretty good in my opinion. But opinions will differ. Is lab grown meat healthier? Maybe. We should be able to grow higher quality cuts with fewer steroids and antibiotics. But red meat is still carcinogenic. So if someone gave up meat for health, it seems unlikely they’d eat lab grown meat.
- markwalllberg 3y agoIt sounds disgusting
- eternityforest 3y agoI suspect taste is not the main problem with meat substitutes. They're already pretty great. The problem is that vegans have such bad PR that one might think cannibalism was more socially acceptable. And this could make that problem worse.
- oweiler 3y agoI disagree. First of all, meat substitutes taste nothing like meat, have often a weird texture and are unhealthy. There are tons of foods which are vegan, taste great, and are healthy. See indian/african/asian food.