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Care to be more specific about the inaccurate parts and/or provide counterpoints (preferably with appropriate counter-evidence)?

SamReidHughes 3y ago
The parent's source is mind-reading.
parthdesai 3y ago
“Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” This is the guy who’s had more than a few successful businesses now. A lot of smart people did want to work with him. Andrej Karpathy himself has said that Elon was very quick to pick up AI technically. That doesn’t sound like a “fundamentally dumb” guy to me
- pinkcan 3y ago
  a lot of smart people fell for Elizabeth Holmes charm and put their money on Theranos for the purpose of this thread saying “Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” is a statement of opinion, one that a growing number of people agree with
  - SamReidHughes 3y ago
    It's not a statement of opinion, it's a bitter resentful raving.
    - pinkcan 3y ago
      okay
  - parthdesai 3y ago
    I tend to fall in the camp that a “fundamentally dumb guy” won’t be able to successfully start, grow and run Tesla and Space X. Was buying twitter a mistake? Sure. Did he make dumb decisions when it comes to twitter? Yes. But IMO, that’s very different than labelling someone “fundamentally dumb”
    - halostatue 3y ago
      Musk did not found Tesla.
      - pinkcan 3y ago
        this. seems a lot of people confound funding and founding, he was one of Tesla's early funders, but he was not part of the team that founded it. > he sank an initial investment of more than $6 million into Tesla, which was then not much more than a pair of founders and a vision of electric sports cars. – https://time.com/6127754/elon-musk-net-worth-person-of-the-year/ https://time.com/6127754/elon-musk-net-worth-person-of-the-y... > So AC Propulsion CEO Gage suggested Musk speak with electric car start-up Tesla Motors, which was also looking to commercialize the tzero. Musk reasoned that by teaming up with another company, he could “have my cake and eat it too,” he said on the podcast – he could still run SpaceX but also pursue his passion for electric cars in his spare time. > “I didn’t think it would be easy, but I thought maybe I could allocate 20 to 30 hours a week and just work on product engineering, and then other people could do the other stuff. I didn’t like doing the other stuff anyway,” Musk said. – https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/30/elon-musk-i-really-didnt-want-to-be-ceo-of-tesla.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/30/elon-musk-i-really-didnt-wan...
valval 3y ago
Why? He’s not the one making claims. Do you have any idea how this works?
- minimaxir 3y ago
  On Hacker News it's generally discouraged to post generic dismissals without counterarguments.
  - qwerasdf5 3y ago
    Correct. Only baseless conjecture is encouraged.
    - dspillett 3y ago
      The evidence may be circumstantial, but the conjecture is far from baseless.
- Freedom2 3y ago
  He claimed his parent comment is making stuff up? What do you mean he's not the one making claims, there's one right there? Or do you mean claims about Elon? It would suit your comment better to be more specific, please try to do so in the future :)
  - SamReidHughes 3y ago
    user_named's post is absolute nonsense. "Elon thought he'd be able to wiggle out of it because he assumed the SEC would be the regulatory body he'd be up against" Bullshit like this has no relation to reality whatsoever.
    - user_named 3y ago
      Bullshit.
- dspillett 3y ago

SamReidHughes 3y ago

The parent's source is mind-reading.

parthdesai 3y ago

“Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” This is the guy who’s had more than a few successful businesses now. A lot of smart people did want to work with him. Andrej Karpathy himself has said that Elon was very quick to pick up AI technically. That doesn’t sound like a “fundamentally dumb” guy to me

pinkcan 3y ago
a lot of smart people fell for Elizabeth Holmes charm and put their money on Theranos for the purpose of this thread saying “Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” is a statement of opinion, one that a growing number of people agree with
- SamReidHughes 3y ago
  It's not a statement of opinion, it's a bitter resentful raving.
  - pinkcan 3y ago
    okay
- parthdesai 3y ago
  I tend to fall in the camp that a “fundamentally dumb guy” won’t be able to successfully start, grow and run Tesla and Space X. Was buying twitter a mistake? Sure. Did he make dumb decisions when it comes to twitter? Yes. But IMO, that’s very different than labelling someone “fundamentally dumb”
  - halostatue 3y ago
    Musk did not found Tesla.
    - pinkcan 3y ago
      this. seems a lot of people confound funding and founding, he was one of Tesla's early funders, but he was not part of the team that founded it. > he sank an initial investment of more than $6 million into Tesla, which was then not much more than a pair of founders and a vision of electric sports cars. – https://time.com/6127754/elon-musk-net-worth-person-of-the-year/ https://time.com/6127754/elon-musk-net-worth-person-of-the-y... > So AC Propulsion CEO Gage suggested Musk speak with electric car start-up Tesla Motors, which was also looking to commercialize the tzero. Musk reasoned that by teaming up with another company, he could “have my cake and eat it too,” he said on the podcast – he could still run SpaceX but also pursue his passion for electric cars in his spare time. > “I didn’t think it would be easy, but I thought maybe I could allocate 20 to 30 hours a week and just work on product engineering, and then other people could do the other stuff. I didn’t like doing the other stuff anyway,” Musk said. – https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/30/elon-musk-i-really-didnt-want-to-be-ceo-of-tesla.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/30/elon-musk-i-really-didnt-wan...

valval 3y ago

Why? He’s not the one making claims. Do you have any idea how this works?

minimaxir 3y ago
On Hacker News it's generally discouraged to post generic dismissals without counterarguments.
- qwerasdf5 3y ago
  Correct. Only baseless conjecture is encouraged.
  - dspillett 3y ago
    The evidence may be circumstantial, but the conjecture is far from baseless.
Freedom2 3y ago
He claimed his parent comment is making stuff up? What do you mean he's not the one making claims, there's one right there? Or do you mean claims about Elon? It would suit your comment better to be more specific, please try to do so in the future :)
- SamReidHughes 3y ago
  user_named's post is absolute nonsense. "Elon thought he'd be able to wiggle out of it because he assumed the SEC would be the regulatory body he'd be up against" Bullshit like this has no relation to reality whatsoever.
  - user_named 3y ago
    Bullshit.
dspillett 3y ago