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India has ISRO Japan has JAXA The UAE have a space agency that even has a Mars mission running currently. Same for China. There's more I'm forgetting, but s

India has ISRO Japan has JAXA The UAE have a space agency that even has a Mars mission running currently. Same for China. There's more I'm forgetting, but space stuff is not limited to Europe and the US.

darknavi 3y ago
Very true, although I assume that most or all of those listed have their own form of ITAR. Space (mostly defense) is inherently siloed to country borders.
- edge17 3y ago
  Isn't that most large capital intensive efforts? Also to be fair a lot of US defense and aero contractors have manufacturing partnerships around the world.
  - colechristensen 3y ago
    > Isn't that most large capital intensive efforts? No. For example in university i was part of a satellite design competition. We couldn’t let Chinese nationals on the team or we’d be breaking the law. There was a list of approved countries a team member could have citizenship from, if not we’d be guilty of violating export controls.
    - JCharante 3y ago
      I wonder, could an American join a satellite design competition team in a Chinese school?
      - colechristensen 3y ago
        If an American did the US State Department might want a word or two with them. Satellites are considered munitions… working on a foreign power’s weapons programs is… discouraged.
- SonicScrub 3y ago
  I can't speak for the other nations, but Space technology in Canada is controlled under the Controlled Goods Program (CGP). A CGP clearance is obtainable as a Permanent Resident. No citizenship required. Various Canadian companies are suppliers/partners for space projects in the US. For example the Artemis project is using the Canadian company MDA as a key supplier (to manufacture space robotic systems, including a newer version of the robotic arm currently on the ISS). SpaceX also has a number of Canadian suppliers, although their involvement is not advertised very much.
  - colordrops 3y ago
    The US is the same. You don't need to be a citizen to work an ITAR controlled job. A green card will suffice.
emadehsan 3y ago
I'm part of the rest of the 4 billion. The ones you mentioned only take their own citizens (probably except UAE).
- starik36 3y ago
  > except UAE I got bad news for you. Their spacecraft was built by University of Colorado at Boulder.

darknavi 3y ago

Very true, although I assume that most or all of those listed have their own form of ITAR. Space (mostly defense) is inherently siloed to country borders.

edge17 3y ago
Isn't that most large capital intensive efforts? Also to be fair a lot of US defense and aero contractors have manufacturing partnerships around the world.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  > Isn't that most large capital intensive efforts? No. For example in university i was part of a satellite design competition. We couldn’t let Chinese nationals on the team or we’d be breaking the law. There was a list of approved countries a team member could have citizenship from, if not we’d be guilty of violating export controls.
  - JCharante 3y ago
    I wonder, could an American join a satellite design competition team in a Chinese school?
    - colechristensen 3y ago
      If an American did the US State Department might want a word or two with them. Satellites are considered munitions… working on a foreign power’s weapons programs is… discouraged.
SonicScrub 3y ago
I can't speak for the other nations, but Space technology in Canada is controlled under the Controlled Goods Program (CGP). A CGP clearance is obtainable as a Permanent Resident. No citizenship required. Various Canadian companies are suppliers/partners for space projects in the US. For example the Artemis project is using the Canadian company MDA as a key supplier (to manufacture space robotic systems, including a newer version of the robotic arm currently on the ISS). SpaceX also has a number of Canadian suppliers, although their involvement is not advertised very much.
- colordrops 3y ago
  The US is the same. You don't need to be a citizen to work an ITAR controlled job. A green card will suffice.

emadehsan 3y ago

I'm part of the rest of the 4 billion. The ones you mentioned only take their own citizens (probably except UAE).

starik36 3y ago
> except UAE I got bad news for you. Their spacecraft was built by University of Colorado at Boulder.