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I refuse to believe that Twitter is so hammered by scrapers that it can’t even serve text content.

by spaceman_2020 3y ago

nperez 3y ago
I don't think it's about servers getting hammered so much as it's about AI causing them to rethink the value of their data, then deciding user hostility is the best way to extract said value
- ethanbond 3y ago
  Or just another stick to try to get people to pay. It’s like watching a precocious 7th grader play product manager.
- cududa 3y ago
  Or that they haven’t paid Google server bills for 4 months and Google threatened to cut them off on July 1st
- spaceman_2020 3y ago
  Can't wait for Elon's AI startup sending me answers in 1/35 threads. I think Elon's real plan is to ride the AI hype train, and the best way to do that is to pretend that Twitter is their "moat". With his capacity for bullshit and the market's willingness to give gobbles of money to bullshit, I'm sure he can ride his bullshit AI startup to $50B valuation easily.
- gmerc 3y ago
  And do tell us, what value would thar data actually have ? I mean apart from maybe training a model to run influence operations on failing twitter? In which world is the ‘data’ from twitter actually of any real world value with Chinchilla law pushing us from quantity to quality?
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misnome 3y ago
Yeah, it sounds like bullshit, even before you notice who is saying it. I absolutely love that the solution is to penalise users for engaging with the platform; looking at replies for one tweet must be, what, a hundred tweets? And better not reply to something yourself because it’ll cause a timeline refresh and cost you another hundred quota!
- redsaber 3y ago
  if they penalize users, how they're going to get more data from the said users to sell.
dawnerd 3y ago
But also to penalize paying customers. Sad part is people are defending him.
belltaco 3y ago
There might be a huge uptick in scraping recently because of AI companies trying to train their own LLMs.

I refuse to believe that Twitter is so hammered by scrapers that it can’t even serve text content.

I don't think it's about servers getting hammered so much as it's about AI causing them to rethink the value of their data, then deciding user hostility is the best way to extract said value

ethanbond 3y ago
Or just another stick to try to get people to pay. It’s like watching a precocious 7th grader play product manager.
cududa 3y ago
Or that they haven’t paid Google server bills for 4 months and Google threatened to cut them off on July 1st
spaceman_2020 3y ago
Can't wait for Elon's AI startup sending me answers in 1/35 threads. I think Elon's real plan is to ride the AI hype train, and the best way to do that is to pretend that Twitter is their "moat". With his capacity for bullshit and the market's willingness to give gobbles of money to bullshit, I'm sure he can ride his bullshit AI startup to $50B valuation easily.
gmerc 3y ago
And do tell us, what value would thar data actually have ? I mean apart from maybe training a model to run influence operations on failing twitter? In which world is the ‘data’ from twitter actually of any real world value with Chinchilla law pushing us from quantity to quality?

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misnome 3y ago

Yeah, it sounds like bullshit, even before you notice who is saying it. I absolutely love that the solution is to penalise users for engaging with the platform; looking at replies for one tweet must be, what, a hundred tweets? And better not reply to something yourself because it’ll cause a timeline refresh and cost you another hundred quota!

redsaber 3y ago
if they penalize users, how they're going to get more data from the said users to sell.

dawnerd 3y ago

But also to penalize paying customers. Sad part is people are defending him.

belltaco 3y ago

There might be a huge uptick in scraping recently because of AI companies trying to train their own LLMs.