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10 years ago the corporation of evil was M$, when Google the Don't Be Evil eventually became more evil? I agree with the statement but seems like I have missed

10 years ago the corporation of evil was M$, when Google the Don't Be Evil eventually became more evil? I agree with the statement but seems like I have missed the moment when it happened.

jug 3y ago
I think it was a long time ago now, back when Google stopped improving their core service (search) to help profits through a better service than the rest and no longer "breaking markets" like introducing Gmail with seemingly infinite storage at the time... (another service that has stalled) And now instead rather going for squeezing out profits by keeping people on their sites and selling their data. But maybe it was just a realization of what was more profitable? R&D becomes exponentially more expensive the more advanced search you try to provide, but any random weird company will be interested in user data for marketing.
- eimrine 3y ago
  > seemingly infinite storage Just a little anecdote: I have subscribed to a lot of newsletters about some FOSS projects I like. I use to never read those letters and now I have reached the limit. Now I can not delete those newsletters without deleting everything because I can not mark more than few tens of those letters at once while having few millions of them.
  - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
    That sounds excruciating. If possible, I suggest using email-to-RSS to solve that problem in the future.
  - knome 3y ago
    I think this should work, no? if you labeled them or create a search that is specific to them ( perhaps from:mailing-list@address ): there is a checkbox above the email listing. clicking it selects everything on the current page. instead of clicking that, click the arrow next to it. a variety of selection options appears. select "all" a banner then appears that says you've selected everything on the current screen, and offesr to select everything that matches it in your account click the offer to select all matching items you can then issue a mass move or mass label or mass delete or whatever I haven't tested this (I'm not purging my own mailing lists to try it :) ) and a selection mistake would be costly, but it appears to be correct.
glogla 3y ago
I mean Microsoft is now building the AI that will take livelihood of hundreds of millions of people and according to some might be the first step towards AI wiping out humanity. So the jury is still out.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  It’s amazing that the same tech people (I am one) are now whining that technology is coming along to take their job. But were telling “lower skilled” workers they should adapt and “learn to code”. I guess people who are complaining should learn how to do the skilled trades - electricians, plumbers, HVAC, car repair.
  - ang_cire 3y ago
    No one working in tech told anyone to learn to code. That whole thing came up during debates about the Green New Deal displacing fossil fuel jobs, and people actually said we needed programs to realign those workers into green energy jobs. The "learn to code" thing was what anti-GND opponents claimed they were being told, to foment anger.

10 years ago the corporation of evil was M$, when Google the Don't Be Evil eventually became more evil? I agree with the statement but seems like I have missed the moment when it happened.

jug 3y ago

I think it was a long time ago now, back when Google stopped improving their core service (search) to help profits through a better service than the rest and no longer "breaking markets" like introducing Gmail with seemingly infinite storage at the time... (another service that has stalled) And now instead rather going for squeezing out profits by keeping people on their sites and selling their data. But maybe it was just a realization of what was more profitable? R&D becomes exponentially more expensive the more advanced search you try to provide, but any random weird company will be interested in user data for marketing.

eimrine 3y ago
> seemingly infinite storage Just a little anecdote: I have subscribed to a lot of newsletters about some FOSS projects I like. I use to never read those letters and now I have reached the limit. Now I can not delete those newsletters without deleting everything because I can not mark more than few tens of those letters at once while having few millions of them.
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  That sounds excruciating. If possible, I suggest using email-to-RSS to solve that problem in the future.
- knome 3y ago
  I think this should work, no? if you labeled them or create a search that is specific to them ( perhaps from:mailing-list@address ): there is a checkbox above the email listing. clicking it selects everything on the current page. instead of clicking that, click the arrow next to it. a variety of selection options appears. select "all" a banner then appears that says you've selected everything on the current screen, and offesr to select everything that matches it in your account click the offer to select all matching items you can then issue a mass move or mass label or mass delete or whatever I haven't tested this (I'm not purging my own mailing lists to try it :) ) and a selection mistake would be costly, but it appears to be correct.

glogla 3y ago

I mean Microsoft is now building the AI that will take livelihood of hundreds of millions of people and according to some might be the first step towards AI wiping out humanity. So the jury is still out.

scarface_74 3y ago
It’s amazing that the same tech people (I am one) are now whining that technology is coming along to take their job. But were telling “lower skilled” workers they should adapt and “learn to code”. I guess people who are complaining should learn how to do the skilled trades - electricians, plumbers, HVAC, car repair.
- ang_cire 3y ago
  No one working in tech told anyone to learn to code. That whole thing came up during debates about the Green New Deal displacing fossil fuel jobs, and people actually said we needed programs to realign those workers into green energy jobs. The "learn to code" thing was what anti-GND opponents claimed they were being told, to foment anger.