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It's always the same comment: X is different from A, therefore X is not a good replacement for A. The whole point of federation is to avoid the problems we're
by rakoo 3y ago
It's always the same comment: X is different from A, therefore X is not a good replacement for A.
The whole point of federation is to avoid the problems we're seeing with Facebook, with Instagram, with Reddit, with Twitter: control over your internet content. Not having a mega-corp bent on maximizing profits and using you as a milking cow, but instead have a say and have actual power in how communities are built and managed. It is 100% expected that Lemmy or KBin is different from Reddit. You say that's not a good user experience, but I challenge that assertion: I say it's not a bad UX, but it's a different UX, and you don't want to change. Well, if you don't want to change, stay on Reddit, that's not a problem. But if you're going to investigate what the fediverse is, please learn what it's about, how it's built. Don't expect to find the same old world you know, that's on purpose !
> It makes no sense to me at all
You're on HN, a forum where members pride themselves in being intelligent enough to dig around, learn by themselves, be different, hack around. You haven't made efforts understanding how the fediverse works, or why it's different, and your conclusion is _not_ that you should investigate, but that you should complain that it's too different. I don't understand this reasoning.
I think an issue in the mentality in this forum is that people mostly expect products, ie a package that is made by an entity and that is served to users. The package is expected to be complete, shiny, wonderful, the entity is expected to do whatever it takes to convince users. It's an asymmetry that is completely opposite to the whole concept of being a hacker, which is supposed to be the H of HN.
Here's a good post explaining what the fediverse is about: https://medium.com/@VirtualAdept/a-friendly-introduction-to-the-fediverse-5b4ef3f8ed0e https://medium.com/@VirtualAdept/a-friendly-introduction-to-...
And here are a few links and resources if you want to go deeper: https://github.com/emilebosch/awesome-fediverse https://github.com/emilebosch/awesome-fediverse
- johnnyanmac 3y agoYea, I agree. Lemmy isn't getting the casual user because the casual user isn't leaving reddit. So why bother? This isn't to be gatekeeping, but I think trying to hope for some magical, identical reddit but without reddit's BS is both a fever dream and shortsighted. Do you believe Reddit2 to not fall into the same trap as reddit? We'd need something different to prevent that, and different is going to be less intuitive than the familiar. It's fine if you don't want to be in that firsr wave of figuring out how to make different work, others will figure It out and communicate their findings.