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Anything and everything related to Youtube is broken. YouTube and Google is the cradle of evil. I dare you to prove me wrong.

eimrine 3y ago
10 years ago the corporation of evil was M$, when Google the Don't Be Evil eventually became more evil? I agree with the statement but seems like I have missed the moment when it happened.
- jug 3y ago
  I think it was a long time ago now, back when Google stopped improving their core service (search) to help profits through a better service than the rest and no longer "breaking markets" like introducing Gmail with seemingly infinite storage at the time... (another service that has stalled) And now instead rather going for squeezing out profits by keeping people on their sites and selling their data. But maybe it was just a realization of what was more profitable? R&D becomes exponentially more expensive the more advanced search you try to provide, but any random weird company will be interested in user data for marketing.
  - eimrine 3y ago
    > seemingly infinite storage Just a little anecdote: I have subscribed to a lot of newsletters about some FOSS projects I like. I use to never read those letters and now I have reached the limit. Now I can not delete those newsletters without deleting everything because I can not mark more than few tens of those letters at once while having few millions of them.
    - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
      That sounds excruciating. If possible, I suggest using email-to-RSS to solve that problem in the future.
    - knome 3y ago
      I think this should work, no? if you labeled them or create a search that is specific to them ( perhaps from:mailing-list@address ): there is a checkbox above the email listing. clicking it selects everything on the current page. instead of clicking that, click the arrow next to it. a variety of selection options appears. select "all" a banner then appears that says you've selected everything on the current screen, and offesr to select everything that matches it in your account click the offer to select all matching items you can then issue a mass move or mass label or mass delete or whatever I haven't tested this (I'm not purging my own mailing lists to try it :) ) and a selection mistake would be costly, but it appears to be correct.
- glogla 3y ago
  I mean Microsoft is now building the AI that will take livelihood of hundreds of millions of people and according to some might be the first step towards AI wiping out humanity. So the jury is still out.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    It’s amazing that the same tech people (I am one) are now whining that technology is coming along to take their job. But were telling “lower skilled” workers they should adapt and “learn to code”. I guess people who are complaining should learn how to do the skilled trades - electricians, plumbers, HVAC, car repair.
    - ang_cire 3y ago
      No one working in tech told anyone to learn to code. That whole thing came up during debates about the Green New Deal displacing fossil fuel jobs, and people actually said we needed programs to realign those workers into green energy jobs. The "learn to code" thing was what anti-GND opponents claimed they were being told, to foment anger.
Andrex 3y ago
YouTube and Google are saints compared to Meta and Microsoft, I'm sorry. And I'm someone who is actively deGoogling themselves right now. Microsoft got so bad I had to switch operating systems (no real love lost, but I really did enjoy XP, 7 and even Vista for nostalgia reasons - first desktop PC), and Meta... do I really even need to say anything?
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  It’s so much easier for me to de-M$/Meta than de-Google however. Namely because YouTube still offers some value to me that unfortunately Odysee lacks for the time being. Using Invidious helps a lot though.
  - kosolam 3y ago
    Also found NewPipe again. It’s actually more useful than the official app.
- hedora 3y ago
  So bad in what way? Windows 8 was when they started following the Google surveillance and "QA in customer prod" playbooks, which are the reasons I stopped keeping a backup copy of MS operating systems around.
- horsawlarway 3y ago
  > YouTube and Google are saints compared to Meta and Microsoft They most certainly are not... If anything, Google is trying it's damned hardest to pull off a "Microsoft v2" party. Everything from intentionally harming competitors, defrauding their ad customers, ruthless tracking and selling information about their users, hoovering up the competition and then killing it (or at best, letting it rot in some corner). And oh - by the way! Google also happens to own the dominant web browser and is merrily InternetExplorerifying it more and more every day. Frankly - the resemblance is so strong to mid 2000s MS that I'm staggered.
ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
YouTube provides free video hosting for the world and Google provides many products for free. There are plenty of companies that are eviler.

eimrine 3y ago

10 years ago the corporation of evil was M$, when Google the Don't Be Evil eventually became more evil? I agree with the statement but seems like I have missed the moment when it happened.

jug 3y ago
I think it was a long time ago now, back when Google stopped improving their core service (search) to help profits through a better service than the rest and no longer "breaking markets" like introducing Gmail with seemingly infinite storage at the time... (another service that has stalled) And now instead rather going for squeezing out profits by keeping people on their sites and selling their data. But maybe it was just a realization of what was more profitable? R&D becomes exponentially more expensive the more advanced search you try to provide, but any random weird company will be interested in user data for marketing.
- eimrine 3y ago
  > seemingly infinite storage Just a little anecdote: I have subscribed to a lot of newsletters about some FOSS projects I like. I use to never read those letters and now I have reached the limit. Now I can not delete those newsletters without deleting everything because I can not mark more than few tens of those letters at once while having few millions of them.
  - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
    That sounds excruciating. If possible, I suggest using email-to-RSS to solve that problem in the future.
  - knome 3y ago
    I think this should work, no? if you labeled them or create a search that is specific to them ( perhaps from:mailing-list@address ): there is a checkbox above the email listing. clicking it selects everything on the current page. instead of clicking that, click the arrow next to it. a variety of selection options appears. select "all" a banner then appears that says you've selected everything on the current screen, and offesr to select everything that matches it in your account click the offer to select all matching items you can then issue a mass move or mass label or mass delete or whatever I haven't tested this (I'm not purging my own mailing lists to try it :) ) and a selection mistake would be costly, but it appears to be correct.
glogla 3y ago
I mean Microsoft is now building the AI that will take livelihood of hundreds of millions of people and according to some might be the first step towards AI wiping out humanity. So the jury is still out.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  It’s amazing that the same tech people (I am one) are now whining that technology is coming along to take their job. But were telling “lower skilled” workers they should adapt and “learn to code”. I guess people who are complaining should learn how to do the skilled trades - electricians, plumbers, HVAC, car repair.
  - ang_cire 3y ago
    No one working in tech told anyone to learn to code. That whole thing came up during debates about the Green New Deal displacing fossil fuel jobs, and people actually said we needed programs to realign those workers into green energy jobs. The "learn to code" thing was what anti-GND opponents claimed they were being told, to foment anger.

Andrex 3y ago

YouTube and Google are saints compared to Meta and Microsoft, I'm sorry. And I'm someone who is actively deGoogling themselves right now. Microsoft got so bad I had to switch operating systems (no real love lost, but I really did enjoy XP, 7 and even Vista for nostalgia reasons - first desktop PC), and Meta... do I really even need to say anything?

tourmalinetaco 3y ago
It’s so much easier for me to de-M$/Meta than de-Google however. Namely because YouTube still offers some value to me that unfortunately Odysee lacks for the time being. Using Invidious helps a lot though.
- kosolam 3y ago
  Also found NewPipe again. It’s actually more useful than the official app.
hedora 3y ago
So bad in what way? Windows 8 was when they started following the Google surveillance and "QA in customer prod" playbooks, which are the reasons I stopped keeping a backup copy of MS operating systems around.
horsawlarway 3y ago
> YouTube and Google are saints compared to Meta and Microsoft They most certainly are not... If anything, Google is trying it's damned hardest to pull off a "Microsoft v2" party. Everything from intentionally harming competitors, defrauding their ad customers, ruthless tracking and selling information about their users, hoovering up the competition and then killing it (or at best, letting it rot in some corner). And oh - by the way! Google also happens to own the dominant web browser and is merrily InternetExplorerifying it more and more every day. Frankly - the resemblance is so strong to mid 2000s MS that I'm staggered.

ThrowawayTestr 3y ago

YouTube provides free video hosting for the world and Google provides many products for free. There are plenty of companies that are eviler.