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If that happened, then that’s a huge point against the anti-2A argument, and huge point towards the cowardly cops argument.
by _v7gu 3y ago
If that happened, then that’s a huge point against the anti-2A argument, and huge point towards the cowardly cops argument.
- HWR_14 3y agoI don't see how there is a cowardly cops argument. They believe that there is one or more armed intruders holding the homeowners hostage. In that case I want them to kick down the door. I just want a phone system that has more authentication built in. And you can check the Wikipedia list of swatting incidents.
- defrost 3y ago> In that case I want them to kick down the door. No concerns for homeowners killed in cross fire then? How about surrounding the location and assessing the situation first?
- HWR_14 3y agoThe calls say something like "I, a homeowner, have an armed intruder actively threatening me. Please come save my life." They are not "a criminal has broken into an empty house across the street". The phone company reports that, yes, it is the homeowner making the call.
- defrost 3y agoAnd? This obliviates any need to verify?
- HWR_14 3y agoYou are hiding in your closet as armed intruders search your home for you. You call the police, who conveniently are driving by with a SWAT team at that moment. The phone company reports, yes, the frantic call is coming from a landline in your house. Please explain what additional steps to verify you would like the SWAT team, the dispatcher, or anyone else to do as the criminals get closer.
- defrost 3y agoGround truth the facts on site before storming the place sight unseen. Obviously. Have you no actual real world experience with emergancy response, industrial accidents, life threatening chemicals, guns, explosives? Have you never had any actual on the job training on response protocols?
- _v7gu 3y agoHow does the phone company verify that the homeowner is making the call when a prankster is calling in reality?
- HWR_14 3y agoThe US phone system has really bad security. It's technically trivial to spoof the phone company. People used to do this frequently to get free long distance calls back when that was a real savings. Imagine the world if pranksters were able to trivially get certificates for Google.com.
- _v7gu 3y agoI was only able to find this page in wikipedia, all except one in US (and the canadians did not burst in with guns blazing): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting This search yields nothing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=List+of+swatting&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=List+of+swatti...
- HWR_14 3y agoSorry, it was London, Canada. My mistake. Yes the majority of cases are US based. I only meant to show it wasn't uniquely American