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There are over 10,000 police departments in the USA. It's those dumbass cops from underfunded communities that fall for this. They get cheap military equipment

There are over 10,000 police departments in the USA. It's those dumbass cops from underfunded communities that fall for this. They get cheap military equipment because USA overbuilt MRAPs for Iraq and Afghanistan, and other guns are relatively cheap. Expensive, college educated cops are outside the budgets of many of these tiny police departments, so they're staffed with High School educated staff who have itchy trigger fingers and excess military stockpiles. What do you think would happen?

masklinn 3y ago
> Expensive, college educated cops are outside the budgets of many of these tiny police departments Also literally over-qualified.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  Doesn't change that the cops in my county are 100% college educated, cause my county is richer than other counties so we can afford it. Also, calling ahead and telling them you're a streamer and to watch out for Swatting (and other such protocols) are well established for my area. So its not something we really worry about. ------------- Cops are in competition with each other. The cheaper areas who don't pay as well do not get the college-educated cops and instead get an entire force at the high-school level. With only a TV-education on how telephones work or the fact that you can't just trust caller-ID (and other such factoids). I'm more than willing to bet that the counties where "Swatting" is an effective tactic are full of the lesser educated, likely underpaid, cops that are missing out on the latest Police training. (Training is also expensive, and some people think that good police training is a left-wing brainwashing mechanism anyway so they don't trust the police academies, sensitivity training, or so forth) But the surplus military equipment was literally free, so they got that.
  - masklinn 3y ago
    > Doesn't change that the cops in my county are 100% college educated You misunderstand, what I’m saying is that US police forces generally consider college education to be over-qualification outside of high-ranking officers. It’s not (just) that they’re expensive, departments literally don’t want them.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      Hmmm, I'm double checking and I think I was misremembering / exaggerating slightly. I think the recruits are all college-educated (associates or so), or otherwise pretty high degree of training. And the non-recruits are experienced cops with good reputations from other parts of the state. In any case, my point is that rich counties are in a talent-war with the poorer areas of your state. Higher qualified and/or trained cops will leave the poor areas to be paid higher (and be recognized better) in richer counties that care more about education and cop-knowledge. Its bad enough that just being a cop in a poor area is already more stressful / work than being in the pleasant suburbia of rich people / low crime districts. But on top of that, all the good cops know to leave the poor-areas and seek out better positions elsewhere. ----------- This 10,000+ departments thing in the USA? Its not working. People need to realize that and start tearing down police departments and/or merging them together. We *DO* have highly talented cops. They're just hanging out in the areas with low crime / less work and better pay.
Natsu 3y ago
> Expensive, college educated cops are outside the budgets of many of these tiny police departments Sometimes it's not budget, they've been known to hire dumbass cops on purpose: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/jordan-v-city-new-london-policing-hiring-and-iq-when-all-answers https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/jordan-v... > In the recent case of Jordan v. City of New London (2000)(Connecticut), a police applicant was denied employment due to scoring too high on the cognitive ability portion of his written application test.

masklinn 3y ago

> Expensive, college educated cops are outside the budgets of many of these tiny police departments Also literally over-qualified.

dragontamer 3y ago
Doesn't change that the cops in my county are 100% college educated, cause my county is richer than other counties so we can afford it. Also, calling ahead and telling them you're a streamer and to watch out for Swatting (and other such protocols) are well established for my area. So its not something we really worry about. ------------- Cops are in competition with each other. The cheaper areas who don't pay as well do not get the college-educated cops and instead get an entire force at the high-school level. With only a TV-education on how telephones work or the fact that you can't just trust caller-ID (and other such factoids). I'm more than willing to bet that the counties where "Swatting" is an effective tactic are full of the lesser educated, likely underpaid, cops that are missing out on the latest Police training. (Training is also expensive, and some people think that good police training is a left-wing brainwashing mechanism anyway so they don't trust the police academies, sensitivity training, or so forth) But the surplus military equipment was literally free, so they got that.
- masklinn 3y ago
  > Doesn't change that the cops in my county are 100% college educated You misunderstand, what I’m saying is that US police forces generally consider college education to be over-qualification outside of high-ranking officers. It’s not (just) that they’re expensive, departments literally don’t want them.
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    Hmmm, I'm double checking and I think I was misremembering / exaggerating slightly. I think the recruits are all college-educated (associates or so), or otherwise pretty high degree of training. And the non-recruits are experienced cops with good reputations from other parts of the state. In any case, my point is that rich counties are in a talent-war with the poorer areas of your state. Higher qualified and/or trained cops will leave the poor areas to be paid higher (and be recognized better) in richer counties that care more about education and cop-knowledge. Its bad enough that just being a cop in a poor area is already more stressful / work than being in the pleasant suburbia of rich people / low crime districts. But on top of that, all the good cops know to leave the poor-areas and seek out better positions elsewhere. ----------- This 10,000+ departments thing in the USA? Its not working. People need to realize that and start tearing down police departments and/or merging them together. We *DO* have highly talented cops. They're just hanging out in the areas with low crime / less work and better pay.

Natsu 3y ago

> Expensive, college educated cops are outside the budgets of many of these tiny police departments Sometimes it's not budget, they've been known to hire dumbass cops on purpose: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/jordan-v-city-new-london-policing-hiring-and-iq-when-all-answers https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/jordan-v... > In the recent case of Jordan v. City of New London (2000)(Connecticut), a police applicant was denied employment due to scoring too high on the cognitive ability portion of his written application test.