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Why is HN so negative about Lemmy?

by b3orn 3y ago

the_lucifer 3y ago
Because it, like Mastodon, is a usability nightmare and literally nothing is being done to address it. All criticism falls on deaf ears and the community is hell bent on pushing their flawed vision through
- guerrilla 3y ago
  Right, like e-mail. That other thing that never took off. I'd love to have been here to read about uts launch.
  - damvigilante 3y ago
    Literally just made his point. Every single person keeps repeating it’s like email, as if email is a fantastic place to go get your news and interact with others.
    - guerrilla 3y ago
      It's not like e-mail. It already fixes the things you're complaining about, while the things OP was complaining about will be fixed eventually. The point of bringing up e-mail is that a) federation does work and b) that usability is not a hindrance by itself.
    - etler 3y ago
      But that's not email's use case at all. It's not being compared to email because they serve the same function otherwise there'd be no need for Lemmy. It's being compared as a distributed and open protocol, and where the comparison is important is in adoption, and email proves out that an open distributed system can achieve not only strong, but universal adoption. We pulled it off in the 80s on ridiculously weak hardware and snail pace internet, I'm sure it can be done again.
      - gremlinsinc 3y ago
        Email was kinda federated in the start, there were hundreds of email companies. They all got eaten up and now only a few big ones remain.
  - 1270018080 3y ago
    Federation is to social media as blockchain is to useful software architecture.
    - guerrilla 3y ago
      Why do you think that? Aphoristic assertions aren't very convincing. Maybe make an argument.
- leetnewb 3y ago
  There is plenty being done to address usability issues. Development activity exploded when Reddit announced the API changes (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/graphs/commit-activity https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/graphs/commit-activity) and usability issues are discussed daily. Reddit's usability issues were (and are) glossed over by third party apps to this day.
- rakoo 3y ago
  So much of a nightmare that millions of people are using it, right ? Despite the dozens of alternative clients, not a single one of them deserves to not be called a nightmare right ?
guerrilla 3y ago
HN is negative to everything. There are catalogues of "what HN got wrong" and it's honestly embaressing to the point of cringe. I think in this case though at least a few people are shilling for the dying services, which nakes it look a bit worse than it usually is.
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NoboruWataya 3y ago
HN is very tech startup focused, so I think people here view Lemmy through that lens. Everything is a product, the goal is always to maximise market share so that you can then hopefully figure out how to monetise it and become a billionaire. These people don't understand that technology could have a different purpose.

Why is HN so negative about Lemmy?

by b3orn 3y ago

Why is HN so negative about Lemmy?

Because it, like Mastodon, is a usability nightmare and literally nothing is being done to address it. All criticism falls on deaf ears and the community is hell bent on pushing their flawed vision through

guerrilla 3y ago
Right, like e-mail. That other thing that never took off. I'd love to have been here to read about uts launch.
- damvigilante 3y ago
  Literally just made his point. Every single person keeps repeating it’s like email, as if email is a fantastic place to go get your news and interact with others.
  - guerrilla 3y ago
    It's not like e-mail. It already fixes the things you're complaining about, while the things OP was complaining about will be fixed eventually. The point of bringing up e-mail is that a) federation does work and b) that usability is not a hindrance by itself.
  - etler 3y ago
    But that's not email's use case at all. It's not being compared to email because they serve the same function otherwise there'd be no need for Lemmy. It's being compared as a distributed and open protocol, and where the comparison is important is in adoption, and email proves out that an open distributed system can achieve not only strong, but universal adoption. We pulled it off in the 80s on ridiculously weak hardware and snail pace internet, I'm sure it can be done again.
    - gremlinsinc 3y ago
      Email was kinda federated in the start, there were hundreds of email companies. They all got eaten up and now only a few big ones remain.
- 1270018080 3y ago
  Federation is to social media as blockchain is to useful software architecture.
  - guerrilla 3y ago
    Why do you think that? Aphoristic assertions aren't very convincing. Maybe make an argument.
leetnewb 3y ago
There is plenty being done to address usability issues. Development activity exploded when Reddit announced the API changes (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/graphs/commit-activity https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/graphs/commit-activity) and usability issues are discussed daily. Reddit's usability issues were (and are) glossed over by third party apps to this day.
rakoo 3y ago
So much of a nightmare that millions of people are using it, right ? Despite the dozens of alternative clients, not a single one of them deserves to not be called a nightmare right ?

guerrilla 3y ago

HN is negative to everything. There are catalogues of "what HN got wrong" and it's honestly embaressing to the point of cringe. I think in this case though at least a few people are shilling for the dying services, which nakes it look a bit worse than it usually is.

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NoboruWataya 3y ago

HN is very tech startup focused, so I think people here view Lemmy through that lens. Everything is a product, the goal is always to maximise market share so that you can then hopefully figure out how to monetise it and become a billionaire. These people don't understand that technology could have a different purpose.