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The "revenue sharing rules" you speak of were a shakedown. Imagine if YC had to pay Tech Crunch for linking this post. They would shut down HN immediately. T

The "revenue sharing rules" you speak of were a shakedown. Imagine if YC had to pay Tech Crunch for linking this post. They would shut down HN immediately. That's what they are requiring of FB.

ummonk 3y ago
Or rather would shutdown linking to TechCrunch.
cratermoon 3y ago
Yeah except they aren't just providing a link, they are wrapping up the headline, a picture, and the first graph or two from the story onto timelines surrounded by their ads, which sends no revenue to the source. People don't click through. It just looks like "Facebook News". It's not that much different from a content farm.
- cscurmudgeon 3y ago
  > Yeah except they aren't just providing a link, they are wrapping up the headline, a picture, and the first graph or two from the story onto timelines surrounded by their ads, which sends no revenue to the source Only to the extent allowed by news websites headers. Maybe this whole thing could have been solved by politicians understanding tech a little better?
  - cratermoon 3y ago
    > Maybe this whole thing could have been solved by politicians understanding tech a little better? How often do we hear, on HN and elsewhere, people complain about laws they don't like wish politicians better understood what they are legislating? This implies the existence of a technological solution, set by technocrats who "understand" better. Whoever asks the question suggests politicians don't know better, offering that explanation without proof. Also, for the Free Market enthusiasts out there, why hasn't the market solved this problem? What forces are preventing all parties from working out a technical and economic solution?
    - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
      The market already sorted it out. Fat cat greedy news corps bought the politicians to circumvent the market. This is like mandating car makers to pay whip makers. > Also, for the Free Market enthusiasts out there, why hasn't the market solved this problem? Why are assuming the market hasn't solved it? And that too without proof? > Whoever asks the question suggests politicians don't know better, offering that explanation without proof. It is easy. There is zero discussion of technology beyond sharing of links in the bill.
rfrey 3y ago
Imagine if HN just copied the first few paragraphs of the TechCrunch article and stole the pictures as well, completely cutting TechCrunch out of the loop.

The "revenue sharing rules" you speak of were a shakedown. Imagine if YC had to pay Tech Crunch for linking this post. They would shut down HN immediately. That's what they are requiring of FB.

ummonk 3y ago

Or rather would shutdown linking to TechCrunch.

cratermoon 3y ago

Yeah except they aren't just providing a link, they are wrapping up the headline, a picture, and the first graph or two from the story onto timelines surrounded by their ads, which sends no revenue to the source. People don't click through. It just looks like "Facebook News". It's not that much different from a content farm.

cscurmudgeon 3y ago
> Yeah except they aren't just providing a link, they are wrapping up the headline, a picture, and the first graph or two from the story onto timelines surrounded by their ads, which sends no revenue to the source Only to the extent allowed by news websites headers. Maybe this whole thing could have been solved by politicians understanding tech a little better?
- cratermoon 3y ago
  > Maybe this whole thing could have been solved by politicians understanding tech a little better? How often do we hear, on HN and elsewhere, people complain about laws they don't like wish politicians better understood what they are legislating? This implies the existence of a technological solution, set by technocrats who "understand" better. Whoever asks the question suggests politicians don't know better, offering that explanation without proof. Also, for the Free Market enthusiasts out there, why hasn't the market solved this problem? What forces are preventing all parties from working out a technical and economic solution?
  - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
    The market already sorted it out. Fat cat greedy news corps bought the politicians to circumvent the market. This is like mandating car makers to pay whip makers. > Also, for the Free Market enthusiasts out there, why hasn't the market solved this problem? Why are assuming the market hasn't solved it? And that too without proof? > Whoever asks the question suggests politicians don't know better, offering that explanation without proof. It is easy. There is zero discussion of technology beyond sharing of links in the bill.

rfrey 3y ago

Imagine if HN just copied the first few paragraphs of the TechCrunch article and stole the pictures as well, completely cutting TechCrunch out of the loop.