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> Regular police officers with a high school diploma and a few weeks worth of training Meanwhile, the UK is moving to a model that requires the equivalent of a

> Regular police officers with a high school diploma and a few weeks worth of training Meanwhile, the UK is moving to a model that requires the equivalent of a three-year undergraduate in policing[0]. Also the po-po there generally don't have guns. 0: https://www.prospects.ac.uk/jobs-and-work-experience/job-sectors/law-enforcement-and-security/joining-the-police https://www.prospects.ac.uk/jobs-and-work-experience/job-sec...

defrost 3y ago
For 'Basic Bobby' it reads more like a three year trade apprenticeship: You can choose to undertake a three-year Level 6 degree apprenticeship, which involves both on and off-the-job training. As with other apprenticeships, you'll earn while you learn and upon successful completion of the programme, you'll have finished your probation as a police constable and will have achieved the BSc Professional Policing Practice. Undergrad degrees don't have on the job training + probationary. Looks appopriate though. Basic Constable here is two years - six month coursework, 18 month probie. https://www.jobsandskills.wa.gov.au/jobs-and-careers/occupations/police-officer https://www.jobsandskills.wa.gov.au/jobs-and-careers/occupat...
- petesergeant 3y ago
  I’m not disagreeing, but note that what you’ve quoted does in fact confer an accredited undergrad degree
  - defrost 3y ago
    Sure .. but typically for centuries in commonwealth countries undergrad university degrees don't include paid on the job training. Sure, medical degrees include time in hospitals after the basics are completed, etc .. all that aside this really does read like a (good) trade apprenticeship program - time split between course work and supervised practice, which I agree with. But a Bachelor of Science equivilent undergrad degree? Apparently technically yes .. but that does seem a stretch.
Zpalmtree 3y ago
UK cops are somehow completely useless but super authoritarian at the same time tho

defrost 3y ago

For 'Basic Bobby' it reads more like a three year trade apprenticeship: You can choose to undertake a three-year Level 6 degree apprenticeship, which involves both on and off-the-job training. As with other apprenticeships, you'll earn while you learn and upon successful completion of the programme, you'll have finished your probation as a police constable and will have achieved the BSc Professional Policing Practice. Undergrad degrees don't have on the job training + probationary. Looks appopriate though. Basic Constable here is two years - six month coursework, 18 month probie. https://www.jobsandskills.wa.gov.au/jobs-and-careers/occupations/police-officer https://www.jobsandskills.wa.gov.au/jobs-and-careers/occupat...

petesergeant 3y ago
I’m not disagreeing, but note that what you’ve quoted does in fact confer an accredited undergrad degree
- defrost 3y ago
  Sure .. but typically for centuries in commonwealth countries undergrad university degrees don't include paid on the job training. Sure, medical degrees include time in hospitals after the basics are completed, etc .. all that aside this really does read like a (good) trade apprenticeship program - time split between course work and supervised practice, which I agree with. But a Bachelor of Science equivilent undergrad degree? Apparently technically yes .. but that does seem a stretch.

Zpalmtree 3y ago

UK cops are somehow completely useless but super authoritarian at the same time tho