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>Well-organized PR campaign. Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign. He certainly did a better jo

>Well-organized PR campaign. Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign. He certainly did a better job than Reddit did, blatantly lying about their conversation, timelines, and motivations for killing 3rd party apps. Reddit is trying to pivot to the TikTok and YouTube comment section population of the internet, while the HN commenter types were simply costing them money. We’ll see how it plays out.

paulcole 3y ago
> Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign. Yes, this and the organized blackout and anti-Reddit posts among the biggest subreddits is a coordinated PR campaign. Remember that the headline narrative they were pushing was “Reddit is killing 3rd-party apps.” It was buried in walls of text that in fact Reddit was making 3rd-party apps pay more than they wanted to pay. If Reddit was in fact killing 3rd-party apps why does Narwhal still work? And yes, I understand that you are quite bright and understood exactly what was going on. But the whole point of the campaign was to appeal to people not like you and get them on the side of the developers. Although admittedly getting Redditors to post “fuck /u/spez” is only marginally harder than shooting fish in a barrel. I’m not throwing shade. Respect to them for shooting their shot. But see it for what it was: an attempt to control a narrative, get the public on their side, and achieve a desired outcome. If that’s not PR, what is?
- robertoandred 3y ago
  If Reddit wanted third-party apps to pay for the API, they wouldn’t have priced them out. Narwhal will shift to subscriptions with unknown prices. Don’t be surprised if it falls apart quickly.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >If Reddit was in fact killing 3rd-party apps why does Narwhal still work? Come back to me in 6 months and see how that statement rings. I wish the best but history serves that Reddit's user have never heen able to put their money where their mouth is. I believe Relay is also doing this, but they seem ready to shut down if users don't pay up.
  - paulcole 3y ago
    RemindMe! 6 months

paulcole 3y ago

> Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign. Yes, this and the organized blackout and anti-Reddit posts among the biggest subreddits is a coordinated PR campaign. Remember that the headline narrative they were pushing was “Reddit is killing 3rd-party apps.” It was buried in walls of text that in fact Reddit was making 3rd-party apps pay more than they wanted to pay. If Reddit was in fact killing 3rd-party apps why does Narwhal still work? And yes, I understand that you are quite bright and understood exactly what was going on. But the whole point of the campaign was to appeal to people not like you and get them on the side of the developers. Although admittedly getting Redditors to post “fuck /u/spez” is only marginally harder than shooting fish in a barrel. I’m not throwing shade. Respect to them for shooting their shot. But see it for what it was: an attempt to control a narrative, get the public on their side, and achieve a desired outcome. If that’s not PR, what is?

robertoandred 3y ago
If Reddit wanted third-party apps to pay for the API, they wouldn’t have priced them out. Narwhal will shift to subscriptions with unknown prices. Don’t be surprised if it falls apart quickly.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
>If Reddit was in fact killing 3rd-party apps why does Narwhal still work? Come back to me in 6 months and see how that statement rings. I wish the best but history serves that Reddit's user have never heen able to put their money where their mouth is. I believe Relay is also doing this, but they seem ready to shut down if users don't pay up.
- paulcole 3y ago
  RemindMe! 6 months